The Oxygen Addiction

Fantasy football season has arrived, and with it comes a fascinating exploration of our society's contradictory relationship with gambling. As our podcast hosts welcome new players to their fantasy league, the conversation quickly evolves into a thought-provoking examination of who gets to decide what constitutes problematic behavior.

The absurdity reaches its peak when one host shares his experience in a mandatory class where participants are essentially labeled as gambling addicts for engaging in fantasy sports—the same activities now heavily promoted through mainstream advertising. His brilliant response when asked why people visit casinos—"I'm addicted to the oxygen"—perfectly captures the ridiculous double standard at play.

We dissect how gambling has transformed from taboo to mainstream entertainment, with celebrities like Kevin Hart constantly appearing in betting app commercials during every football broadcast. Yet simultaneously, individuals participating in fantasy leagues face scrutiny and judgment from systems designed to label rather than understand.

Through personal anecdotes and sharp observations, we highlight the hypocrisy of a society that profits from gambling while stigmatizing those who participate. From state-sponsored lotteries to the ubiquitous betting platforms, the message is clear: gambling is only a problem when someone else decides it is.

Whether you're a fantasy sports enthusiast, a casual gambler, or someone who's experienced judgment for your recreational choices, this episode offers a refreshing perspective on personal agency and the arbitrary nature of societal labels. Join us for an honest, often humorous look at who really gets to define our problems, and why that matters more than you might think.

Transcript

Welcome to Fantasy Football Season

Speaker 2 0:13

Hey, everybody, welcome to. Saki Toomey. Hey everybody, it's Ditto. Welcome back to Saki Toomey, the podcast that connects people to people. Even if you're a degenerate gambler, I'm here with t-bot hey, hey this is our first week, oh yeah, of fantasy football fantasy football I'm pumped and I have no idea what the f I am doing this is your first team, isn't it ever I could tell thanks, you didn't even draft a tight, you didn't even draft a tight end.

Speaker 3 0:46

You didn't even draft a tight end. I have to go back the next day.

Speaker 2 0:50

That's not a big deal. It's really not a big deal.

Speaker 3 0:52

I know, I know, I know, but I'm a little nervous. I am a little nervous about that, I gotta tell you.

Speaker 2 0:56

But I'm proud of you and Casey, to be honest, because this season right here is both of your first seasons.

Speaker 3 1:04

I thought she did one once before she said I don't think so.

Speaker 2 1:07

Okay, I think that's what she said, that's fine, you were both yelling at me in the draft. Oh yeah, we were, because we were like help me, help me, help me.

Speaker 3 1:12

I don't know what I'm doing.

Speaker 2 1:13

I don't know what to do. I can't. Who do I draft?

Speaker 3 1:25

I know you have three teams expert I. I am far from an expert. Okay, I'll take that back. You have three teams. You've done it a heck of a lot longer than than I have, so I asked for your you know expertise they have levels like they have levels as far as so we we do yahoo yeah, right, right right so they have levels.

Speaker 2 1:37

I'm like a bronze okay that's horrible. Basically means you suck at fancy football well, okay, I guess it's there's still.

Speaker 3 1:46

Third place is bronze. It's not that bad. I mean, there's 10 of us on this team and I'm thinking I'm gonna come in like second to the last, because I have no idea what I'm doing fantasy football started in like the early 2000s, right thousands and literally set everything off for fantasy sports.

Speaker 2 2:05

Right, right, right, right. Yep, I've been doing it since then and I'm bronze.

Speaker 3 2:10

Oh Well.

Speaker 2 2:11

So over almost 20,. Let's just go shits and gigs 25 years Okay, I'm bronze.

Speaker 3 2:19

Well, okay, when you put it that way, yeah, loser.

Speaker 2 2:23

I am far from an expert. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 3 2:25

All right, take it back.

Speaker 2 2:27

But I know how the whole gig works Right Right, right right. And so I was trying to teach you girls.

Speaker 3 2:32

Yes, I mean, I love football. It's my favorite time of year. I know some of the players I love watching, but when you get to that situation, I panicked, I panicked. So we'll see.

Speaker 2 2:43

Well, that's because you're a woman. Oh, here we go. But I do want to say one thing out loud to everyone I'm proud of both of you. I'm proud of both of you for doing this. Yeah, you're going to love it. I'm going to yeah, it will make football more fun, correct, correct. And then you've got something to do on the side Right, like another dude or whatever.

Speaker 3 3:07

Oh my God Jesus, we'll cut that one out. Yes, nailed it.

Speaker 2 3:13

Here we go, so fantasy football is my favorite thing.

Speaker 3 3:17

Yeah.

Speaker 2 3:18

It is. I like it more than March Madness, really, yes, and I love March Madness, oh I love March Madness, I love March Madness.

Speaker 3 3:22

Oh, I love March Madness I love, march Madness.

Speaker 3 3:24

I think March Madness, to me at this particular point, is a little easier, because you just pick them all at once and then you just write it Like now I've got to move my play. There we go. Come on, here we go. Choose your words wisely, I didn't choose my words, you just have to pick up on them. Anyway, what do you think the listeners are doing? I don't think they're doing it like you are, anyway. So now I've got to remember to make sure I set my line up and now I have to make sure I check to see who's injured, who's out have to replace. It's a little more stressful than just March Madness. So to me, I think I like March Madness better because there's not so much that I had to put into it.

Speaker 2 4:02

See, I would disagree with you on that.

Speaker 3 4:04

Okay, that's fine, you can.

Speaker 2 4:06

Here's why Okay, go. Here's why what you're saying isn't wrong Okay. I know that, but you only have like four days to get that thing done.

Speaker 3 4:14

What do you mean?

Speaker 2 4:14

Oh, between March, from Selection Sunday Right To the first Thursday. Right have to pick your teams Fair enough, and then you're done. And then I'm done so yeah, that is like the most stressful time ever.

Speaker 3 4:25

I'll give you that, but this is every week thing. Now, if I forget to set my lineup, then I've got someone injured who's not playing. There goes my points.

Speaker 2 4:32

Losing one week isn't going to kill you.

Speaker 3 4:34

I get it.

Speaker 2 4:34

I'm still learning all this point-wise and all this and that's what I'm trying to teach you, so I understand what you're saying. Yeah, I disagree with you because March Madness is more hectic right in the beginning.

Speaker 3 4:48

I will give you right in the beginning, but that's all you have to do.

Speaker 2 4:50

It's all you have to do for fantasy football too, and you'll see this.

Speaker 3 4:52

Well, okay, again, you're right, I have to witness it and go through it, and all that because it's my first time.

Speaker 2 4:57

It is yeah, and I'm proud of you for doing it.

Speaker 3 5:01

I've been wanting to do it I really have for the past couple of years, because I see everybody do it. It looks like it's fun. And now that I'm in it and I was doing the whole the picking, I'm like, whoa, I'm a little stressed out, I'm a little stressed out.

Speaker 2 5:13

Again, that's because you're a woman.

Speaker 3 5:15

Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 5:16

You're a woman. Here we go. Here we go, the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 5:21

No, I'm really not thinking of the Super Bowl. Yeah, you are, I'm not.

Is Fantasy Football Gambling?

Speaker 2 5:25

I still want to come in last, because that's why the Super Bowl's coming it is. You have no control over it, nope, and yet you're worried about it, because that's what women do and that's why we love them.

Speaker 3 5:39

Yeah, well, sometimes it goes both ways, buddy.

Speaker 2 5:42

Anyway, is fantasy football gambling.

Speaker 3 5:48

Yeah, I never actually thought about it, but we had to put money up because we're all in a pool. So if you put money up for a sports situation or sports whatever, you're gambling correct.

Speaker 2 5:58

What's the definition of gambling?

Speaker 3 6:03

Probably. You put money up to do something and then you either win or lose on an outcome you're not sure of okay, okay, right so fantasy football would be gambling right and march, madness would be gambling right right, correct.

Speaker 2 6:19

If you do those two things, yeah, do you have a gambling problem? Oh, good question what is a gambling problem?

Speaker 3 6:27

huh, uh. Well, here's my opinion on the gambling thing. I don't think what I'm doing constitutes me as a having a gambling problem, because I'm putting up money up front and I'm only losing that money. I'm not putting any more into it. You, people, you, when people go to casinos, they lose track of their money and they keep going and going and going in their debt and they have to pay people and they do it all the time.

Speaker 2 6:50

Who has the ability to tell you that you do or do not have a problem?

Speaker 3 6:54

I don't know, never thought about it. No one, okay, yeah.

Speaker 2 6:57

It's your life. If you want to lose $150,000 in a day, oh, that's rough, that's your problem. Yes, so I've been watching the, the, the. Was it the final dance? The last dance? Oh, yeah, about the bowls, oh yeah, yeah. Michael Jordan is a gambler right. Michael Jordan will lose five, 10, $15,000 a hole at golf. Pocket change yeah, you know what Michael Jordan has the luxury to do that Right.

Speaker 3 7:24

But there are people that don't understand that concept and lose their houses, they get divorced, they lose everything because they have such a problem.

Speaker 2 7:32

Who are you to say they have a problem?

Speaker 3 7:34

Well, I'm not saying they have a problem per se, because I don't know it, but if you hear about it, then it constitutes a problem. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Speaker 2 7:43

You're wrong.

Speaker 3 7:44

Okay, why?

Speaker 2 7:45

Because you have no right to say that somebody has a problem.

Speaker 3 7:48

Okay, why?

Speaker 2 7:49

Let's just say they drink too much, right? How much do they have to drink to have a problem?

Speaker 3 7:54

Depends upon the person.

Speaker 2 7:56

Depends upon the person, right? No, it doesn't. Okay, you give them the problem by labeling them like that.

Speaker 3 8:03

I'm not.

Speaker 2 8:04

There are people out there that will get hammered Right and go to work Right and produce. Okay, Do they have a problem? Guy over here got a drunk driving accident. He's got a problem. It's like where do you draw the line and why?

Speaker 3 8:18

Good question.

Speaker 2 8:19

Who is it for anyone to tell anyone they have a problem?

Speaker 3 8:25

Until I get in trouble, I guess. I mean, if you think about it like if you get in trouble and you have a debt, that's a problem, then you have a problem, you get DUI.

Speaker 2 8:31

You have a problem because you're in debt.

Speaker 3 8:33

Well, if you have a DUI, that's a problem, then you get labeled as a problem. So I guess, until you have a problem, you're not a problem.

Who Decides What's a Problem?

Speaker 2 8:40

Right, right, okay. Well, the I'm in these classes, yeah, and the other day they sat me down, not me, a guy sat down in my class, yep, and they're like two things One of them's funny, one of them's straightforward, oh boy, but he's like does anybody here like to go to the casino? And most of the guys in the room raise their hand.

Speaker 3 9:10

Yeah right.

Speaker 2 9:11

And why do you like to go to the casino? My immediate reaction was because I like the oxygen.

Speaker 3 9:19

I'm addicted to the oxygen.

Speaker 2 9:23

You're such an idiot. I caught him off guard so badly that the leader of the class and the guy that's sitting down did not know what to say I wouldn't either, because it's actually fun. I'm surprised I didn't laugh so I sit here and I'm gonna tell you I don't gamble right but I play fantasy football right and I play march madness correct right so is that gambling?

Speaker 2 9:42

that's gambling I asked him that too. What do you say? Well, that's a different kind of gambling. No, oh, there's a different kind of gambling. There's levels. Yeah, that's what I'm like. Oh, so now you could sort this out. Was it compartmentalized? Right? Right, like you could just decide where the level of problem I have is right. I'm like fuck you powerball gambling all these people are going out right now all gambling yep, all gambling and buying powerball tickets because it's like a billion bucks or whatever, whatever yeah, but that's again.

Speaker 3 10:11

That's gambling.

Speaker 2 10:12

That's exactly what it is yeah, but it's only 20, you know exactly, but that's exactly it, yes, so now there here's this hardcore degenerate gambler, right, coming into this class to tell me about gambling. Yeah, and I really don't gamble, right, I don't go to the casino yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. All I do is what I said. Yeah, fantasy football and March Madness.

Speaker 3 10:33

I make too much money to lose it all. Honestly, I just yeah, I can't do it, it does not strike me as something that's great. Exactly Like I said, march Madness, this'm not wasting any more of my money. No, no, no.

Speaker 2 10:50

And he sat there and it was like he was here. I am saying I don't gamble, I just do fantasy and March Madness, yeah, and he's making me feel like I have a problem. Wow Right.

Speaker 3 11:06

Because this is how it starts and this is how you're going to be if you keep doing this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like bro, shut the hell up. Yeah, so he's doing that.

Speaker 2 11:10

I'm this age. Yeah, it would have already happened, oh well, get out of this class.

Speaker 3 11:15

Some people get their social security checks and guess where they go? Bam, let's go blow it all. Oh my God.

Speaker 2 11:20

Let's go blow it all on oxygen they were so caught off guard.

Speaker 3 11:36

Oh, great of an answer. Oh, I can't. That's a great answer.

Speaker 2 11:38

I raised my hand, like people were like this hand all the way to the sky, all the way to the sky, and I'm like I got it right here and they're looking at me and I guess I'm like I go there for the oxygen.

Speaker 3 11:51

So wait time out. I'm sorry, did I ask you? Did anyone laugh in the class? Anyone have anything to say?

Speaker 2 11:56

Every single person laughed.

Speaker 3 11:58

I was going to say you cannot not laugh at that.

Speaker 2 12:00

Every single person laughed.

Speaker 3 12:03

That's a great answer. Oh God, that's a great answer.

Speaker 2 12:07

I was going to say the lack of windows. That too, that would have worked too. I thought oxygen was.

Speaker 3 12:15

That's great.

Speaker 2 12:16

Oh no, I think my exact response was I'm addicted to the oxygen.

Speaker 3 12:21

You said I'm addicted to the oxygen.

Speaker 2 12:22

I'm addicted to the oxygen, oh that's great.

Speaker 3 12:24

Good for you, that's great.

Speaker 2 12:27

In a men's substance abuse class or something like that.

Speaker 3 12:30

Oh my God Stop.

Speaker 2 12:34

That's fantastic. The dude did not know what to say. That's fantastic. He starts talking about how we're all degenerate because we gamble it all.

Speaker 3 12:45

Oh God, here we go.

Speaker 2 12:47

And then I raised my hand again and said what about, like fantasy sports?

Speaker 3 12:52

yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 12:52

And he's like, well, yeah, that's gambling, blah, blah. I was like, well, how come I can't watch a baseball game anymore without draft kings?

Speaker 3 12:59

that's right or fan duel right all the time yeah, we just talked about that you're just pushing this on me yep, exactly that used to be that way yeah, if I have, I have a problem A why are you here?

Speaker 2 13:11

And B why is this happening? Right, right, right and no response. Really. Yeah. So I'm getting to the point now where I'm like these classes just are? They're there to tell you that you have a problem?

Speaker 3 13:23

Oh, I believe it and you don't it and you don't. Oh, you don't right, you don't right. But yeah, we just talked about that, remember, with it never used to be any commercials about gambling. Well, they showed keep it up, draft king and all that, and you and don't they have like this instant bet too that you could do when you watch a game?

Speaker 2 13:37

that's what I asked yeah, okay I was like, if you bet on a game, if you think you're gonna lose, they'll ask you, like the seventh inning, yeah, to redo it, like they want you to lose again. Jesus.

Speaker 3 13:50

Yeah.

Speaker 2 13:52

And Connecticut was the last state to actually give in.

Speaker 3 13:56

Yeah, I think you said something about that.

Speaker 2 13:58

Do you know why I don't remember? Because of the Yukon Huskies.

Speaker 3 14:02

Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 2 14:04

Because the casinos are here, right On Indian land. Yep, they had to figure out a way to get around betting on the Huskies.

Speaker 3 14:12

Oh, okay, do you?

Speaker 2 14:12

know what I mean Gotcha.

Speaker 3 14:14

That's what it was, so it took them forever yeah.

Speaker 2 14:17

That's why Connecticut was one of the last states to include this Federally. It's legal Statewide. You can choose. It's legal in all 50 states.

Speaker 3 14:27

Yeah.

Speaker 2 14:28

And now they're showing Fandle.

Speaker 3 14:29

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 14:31

Which is ridiculous, ridiculous. You cannot sit in a class and tell me I'm a degenerate gambler, right? When you're just going to push it on me Exactly when are the cigarette commercials?

Speaker 3 14:44

Yeah, I don't see many. There aren't any.

Speaker 2 14:46

Nope, nope, they got rid of them. Yep, they got rid of them, mm-hmm.

Speaker 3 14:50

Now they replace it with gambling they replace it with gambling. Exactly so I'm just addicted to the oxygen. Yeah, you can't be accused of gambling when you're doing all this. It's impossible. They can't do that, they just can't.

Speaker 2 15:04

They weren't necessarily accusing, but they make you feel like you have a problem. They make you second guess yourself.

Speaker 3 15:11

Okay, which means no, it's pretty much accusing.

Speaker 2 15:13

No, which means they want to keep you there.

Speaker 3 15:15

Well, oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 15:17

And who are they to tell me yeah, nobody said I have a problem with oxygen. No one has a problem that I have a problem with oxygen. I need it, I can't live without it. You know what I mean? True story. And then they pump that shit into the casinos so you stay awake, I can't, so fuck you casino. Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 15:39

it's fucked up.

Speaker 2 15:41

It is so fucked up when you think about it oxygen is like the drug they use to get you there yes, and then they put you in these classes and tell you you're a bastard for gambling right, when all you really want is the oxygen right it's funny.

Speaker 3 16:00

It is funny, that is a funny thing. But yeah, so you're gonna have to help me with my lineups and stuff.

Speaker 2 16:05

You gotta remind me I'm gonna forget I do not have to help you with anything. No, I know I gave you the advice in leadership that you needed I got I got. I got you where you needed to be and now I don't have to help you at all. You're an enemy now. Sink or swim t-bot, figure it out. Figure it out, or you're getting the toilet bowl I am.

Speaker 3 16:26

It's my biggest fear. No, I do appreciate you helping me out, though I'm just going to wing it.

Speaker 2 16:32

And I will still help you out. I know you will. You know this all ties back to lotto tickets and, like you said, the Powerball, which is like a billion bucks.

Speaker 3 16:43

Oh God, yeah, and now forget Gaten. Gas, oh God, I just went into the gas station.

Speaker 2 16:49

I'd rather run out on the side of the road and have AAA come out because it'll take less time. Oh shit, do you know what I mean? Seriously, I'd rather wait for AAA to come get me and fill up my tank for me. It'll be cheaper and quicker than walking into any gas station Any store anything.

Speaker 3 17:03

I went to the packet store. I was like 15 minutes in there. I'm like it's usually in and out, in and out. It's like five people. I'm like you can't go anywhere else. I'll take one of those, and I'll take one of those and I'm going to get five Powerballs and do that. I'm like holy cow, can you just pay for this? I got to go.

Speaker 2 17:18

I can't. I'm stealing this milk.

Speaker 3 17:25

Fuck you. I almost wasnoxiously annoying yes, and they're all gambling, they're all gambling.

Speaker 2 17:31

But they have problems.

Speaker 3 17:33

They have problems. That's what they're telling this class, don't? We all have problems?

Speaker 2 17:36

Every single fucking person on this planet has a problem.

Speaker 3 17:39

Every single person, everyone, yes.

Speaker 2 17:41

Mine just happens to be oxygen. I can't get enough of it.

Speaker 3 17:46

No, you cannot get enough of it. I can't get enough of it. You cannot get enough of it. That's a true story. I didn't say a true story. You suck it out of the air sometimes that you talk so much.

Speaker 2 17:55

I honestly think we all suck it out of the air. Good point, but to have that dude sit in the class and tell us we have problems.

Speaker 3 18:06

He's got a big set there. That's interesting. You know what you should have done. Do you gamble, Do you play? You should have said do you gamble? He did, oh he lost everything.

Gambling Commercials Everywhere

Speaker 2 18:15

No, he was real. Oh really, yeah, he was real. He was a real degenerate gambler.

Speaker 3 18:19

Really.

Speaker 2 18:20

Yeah, he relapses, he does it again. So, yes, he was actual. He was real, he was a real deal.

Speaker 3 18:26

So now he talks about it and tries to tell people not to do it.

Speaker 2 18:28

He tries to help people.

Speaker 3 18:30

Okay.

Speaker 2 18:30

Because he knows how bad it is, which is very noble of him. No, that's awesome. That's awesome, but he sits in a class and makes us feel like we have fucking problems.

Speaker 3 18:41

Yeah, that's not cool. No, it's not, he's deflecting.

Speaker 2 18:45

No, he's not, you sure. Yeah, he's the opposite of deflecting. Okay, he's taking what he knows and saying things to you Trying to help, but he really believes that he's helping. Okay, well then, problem is, he doesn't know who he's helping. Oh, do you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 18:59

Yeah.

Speaker 2 18:59

So and he probably really is helping I'm sure I'm going to err on the side of caution here and and he might help them. Yeah, you're right. Yep, I personally just don't have a problem gambling.

Speaker 3 19:18

Right, it doesn't affect you either way.

Speaker 2 19:20

Correct Right. So the way they present it just makes you feel bad?

Speaker 3 19:24

Yeah, of course, and it's not his fault.

Speaker 2 19:26

Right, it's not his fault. No, it's built like that. Yeah, it's like the justice system wants you to feel again.

Speaker 3 19:34

And again.

Speaker 2 19:34

It's so true, and again, and again, and again.

Speaker 3 19:40

It's so true.

Speaker 2 19:41

It's so transparent.

Speaker 3 19:42

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 19:43

It's so transparent, right, and you just sit there like you people are fucked up. It's definitely not me, it's you so true. But I'm the one in the class, right, right, I'm the one in the class. What leg do I have to stand on? You know what I mean? Nope, it's like oh my God, I don't do any of this. I don't do any of this, and you guys are telling me that I do, and you really believe that what you're doing helps. I know.

Speaker 2 20:09

And it don't. I know, and everybody in those classes are like it sucks. This is awful. Oh God.

Speaker 3 20:21

Those are taxpayers at work people. Yeah, that's what happened.

Speaker 2 20:24

Oh no, they're contracted by the state. Oh, that makes sense now. Fantastic. What the fuck Keep them in there.

Speaker 3 20:33

The federal government wants to pay us.

Speaker 2 20:34

It can't. Oh my God, it's fucking terrible. It's terrible. Put the hands of God down. Oh my God, it's fucking terrible. It's terrible.

Speaker 3 20:39

Put the hands together, talk about gambling. All you do is show fucking commercials of gambling. It's so dumb. It's so dumb. Oh my God, this is a mechanism for just making money. We should count on Sunday Football. How many gambling commercials there are.

Speaker 2 20:58

Let's do that, we'll reconvene. Gambling commercials there are. Let's do that, we'll reconvene and we'll talk about it.

Speaker 3 21:01

Let's do that. Absolutely, I want to actually find out how many, because I'd be interested now.

Speaker 2 21:04

There will be. Kevin Hart will be on there. Oh yes, at least. Probably a fucking thousand times, exactly From 1 o'clock in the afternoon, yep, till 11 o'clock at night, when the, when the Sunday night game's over. Kevin Hart will be on there at least 30 times. I'm going to go with that.

Speaker 3 21:20

Easily.

Speaker 2 21:21

Easily Talk about how you can win a lot of money $500 free, $500 free.

Speaker 3 21:26

And he's talking about it. He's a superhero, he's like a Hollywood movie star, so let's go out and do it, because he's talking about it. It's Kevin Hart.

Speaker 2 21:33

Oh my God, it's disgusting. It actually is disgusting, it's disgusting.

Speaker 3 21:37

So you're actually enhancing people who already have a problem, because it's now Kevin Hart's talking about it.

Speaker 2 21:42

Yeah, All right, good marketing. All you did was pay a big superstar to fucking promote you so that you could get all the degenerates that have problems to gamble, gamble, and then put it in the system.

Speaker 3 21:58

Twisted, so twisted. Could you get arrested for gambling? Uh, no, I don't think so. Why?

Speaker 2 22:06

what would be the I don't know, but you can get arrested for drinking well, obviously that's an impairment, that's legal wait. No gambling is legal. Yes, drinking is legal. I can get a dui, but I can get a DUI, but I can't get a DGI Drunk and gambling idiot.

Speaker 3 22:23

Wait time out, you can. Yes, you can, because you're drunk and you're gambling. Yes, you can.

Speaker 2 22:29

I've never heard of anybody getting arrested for gambling.

Speaker 3 22:31

No, I don't think you can. I think you just get in trouble with whoever you owe money to.

Speaker 2 22:36

So what is the problem? I, whoever you owe money to. So what is the problem?

Speaker 3 22:38

I don't know. Listen, people create fucking problems. I don't know.

Speaker 2 22:42

You nailed it. You fucking nailed it. Yeah, people create problems. And who are you to tell me I have a problem?

Speaker 3 22:49

Yeah.

Speaker 2 22:49

And that's how this whole show is supposed to go. Correct, you can't tell me I do Right, and then interventions and shit. Shut the fuck up, get out of my life. Well, you don't like what I'm doing? Bam Middle finger.

Speaker 3 23:00

Well, let's not open up that kind of room. I think interventions are made for reasons because they may be hurting people and they want to see the best for the person, but that's a whole different thing. But I don't think that's what we're talking about right now.

The Gambling Double Standard

Speaker 2 23:12

Who is God here on Earth? Who? Is, who is what? Who is god here on earth?

Speaker 3 23:22

I don't then you don't have the ability to fucking judge. Oh okay, it's like it's like your amazon cart oh, here we go.

Speaker 2 23:26

I'm just kidding.

Speaker 3 23:29

It's like just judging somebody by their car oh my god you can't do that okay, well, listen, that's a whole different story right now. But I'm just saying that's interventions are for people that have issues. But you're right, I don't think anyone has ever gotten arrested for gambling. Why would they arrest you on? What is the premise Again?

Speaker 2 23:49

Completely sober coming home from the casino. Correct, I got pulled over because I gambled.

Speaker 3 23:59

They labeled me, I lost $200,000 and they pulled me over.

Speaker 2 24:01

I didn't report it to the IRS. Right right exactly.

Speaker 3 24:05

Well, I mean, I have friends time out. I have friends who I don't know how much they've lost, but they come home and they tell me a huge bunch of money.

Speaker 2 24:13

That's how you know they're a degenerate gambler, right? They don't tell you how much they lost.

Speaker 3 24:17

Well, it's not my business either.

Speaker 2 24:20

It's not your business to know how much they won.

Speaker 3 24:22

Well, she's my friend.

Speaker 2 24:24

They're bragging. They're bragging to make themselves feel better.

Speaker 3 24:28

No, she basically tells me she loses money all the time, but she also says what she wins. I'm like okay, but how much did you lose? She's like I lost more than I you know, or we're ahead right now or behind, or whatever.

Speaker 2 24:40

If you gamble, you're not a winner.

Speaker 3 24:42

No, you're right, because you lost.

Speaker 2 24:43

You lost, you're going to lose.

Speaker 3 24:45

I know I agree.

Speaker 2 24:46

It's like I'm putting up this year alone in fantasy football. I am putting up $375 for my three leagues, okay. $375 for my three leagues, okay, which is cheap for fancy football?

Speaker 3 25:00

Yeah, agreed.

Speaker 2 25:01

But $375. Mm-hmm, I don't know if I'll win or not. Right, if I cut that in half, I'm going to be like, oh yeah, I won $175. Right, I lost $175.

Speaker 3 25:11

No, I agree.

Speaker 2 25:12

Basically, I broke even, I broke even, you broke even. No, you don't break even. You lost $175.

Speaker 3 25:18

That's what it was right. You didn't win Right.

Speaker 2 25:21

If I win the whole thing and I come out on the plus column, Then you're ahead of the game.

Speaker 3 25:25

Then I'm ahead of the game, correct? Yeah, if you only won $175, you lost $175.

Speaker 2 25:29

20 years of playing fantasy football.

Speaker 3 25:33

I've won Wait in fantasy football these years $800 or $900.

Speaker 2 25:40

Oh, wow, okay, so huh At once.

Speaker 3 25:42

Oh, one time.

Speaker 2 25:43

One time. No, I've won.

Speaker 3 25:45

I don't know the total of my winnings for fantasy football, but for your biggest pot was $900 or something like that. What?

Speaker 2 25:50

I do know, is put $375 times 20. And that's what I lost. That's what I fucking lost.

Speaker 3 25:59

You gotcha Right. Yeah, you're right, yep.

Speaker 2 26:01

And that's how it works.

Speaker 3 26:02

That's how it?

Speaker 2 26:02

works. It doesn't work like oh yeah, I mean, I didn't lose all that because I won some.

Speaker 3 26:07

You just said you did right Right, Right, right, right.

Speaker 2 26:09

But at the end of the day, I didn't win that much. No, right, every year. Correct, right, right. So I lost, yeah, I fucking lost, Right. But it does make everything more fun, more interesting, of course, right, of course. So it's a good time, yeah, and it's money I'm willing to give up.

Speaker 3 26:26

Right, because you know you're going to do it. So you give it up, you put it aside, or whatever.

Speaker 2 26:31

And yeah.

Speaker 3 26:32

Like they go every day.

Speaker 2 26:34

Every day they find random card games and shit. Yes, just like in small holes in the wall. You know what I mean. It's fucked up, but we'll talk about that next time. We are getting to the end, we're 27 minutes in Oof and I feel like we can keep going, but oh yeah, we really didn't make any point, except for I'm addicted to oxygen, that Oxygen. That's the only point we made here Valid point.

Speaker 3 26:57

So, Time flies.

Speaker 2 27:00

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