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The Marriage Without Romance
What if marriage wasn't about romance at all, but simply a practical arrangement between friends? In this thought-provoking episode, we explore the surprising statistics behind marriage success rates and propose an unconventional approach that might make perfect sense in today's world.
Did you know lesbian marriages have the highest divorce rates, followed by heterosexual unions, while male-male marriages boast the lowest rates of dissolution? We dive into these fascinating patterns and unpack what they reveal about gender dynamics, relationship expectations, and society's impact on how we connect with each other. As one host bluntly puts it, "Men are just too lazy to file for divorce," sparking a heated but insightful debate about why approximately 75% of heterosexual divorces are initiated by women.
The conversation takes an unexpected turn when we contemplate the practical benefits of marrying your best friend—regardless of gender or romantic involvement. Tax advantages, health insurance, inheritance rights, social security benefits, shared property... With so many practical perks, why not form a marriage of convenience with someone you genuinely enjoy spending time with? "Why wouldn't you enjoy the benefits of being married to your honest-to-God best friend?" We envision a world where marriage partners support each other while maintaining separate romantic lives, challenging traditional notions of what matrimony must entail.
Whether you're questioning conventional relationship structures or simply curious about alternative approaches to partnership, this episode offers a refreshing perspective that might change how you think about marriage altogether. Subscribe to hear more unconventional conversations, and head over to someassembly.net, our sponsor, to check out their offerings!
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hey, everybody, welcome to sake to me hey everybody's dental. Welcome back to sake to me, where we connect people to people, even if getting married means it sucks. Question mark. Anyway, we're here today. I'm here with T-Bot, hey, hey, we're going to talk about same-sex marriages.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay.
Speaker 1:I'm into it, okay, yep, nope, I want to marry my best friend and just watch baseball. All the benefits I mean if you get married you don't have sex anyway.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's well, that is true, that's true. So that doesn't happen all the time, but, yes, most of the time. Yes, let's just nap on the couch let's not make it weird anymore.
Speaker 1:You know, I'm saying oh geez, here we go it's crazy because, uh, like same-sex marriages, lesbians, female-female marriages have the highest rate of divorce. Really, yes, I did not know that. Oh, absolutely Whoa. Second highest is heterosexual marriages. Well, that's a given. The lowest Is males Is males. Stop it. Well, time out, Because they're just like dude, I don't care.
Speaker 2:That's what I was just gonna say, because dudes really don't give a shit and they'll watch football, baseball. They'll just just meld together better than I think anybody else. But I don't. I'm surprised. Women marriages have are the highest why are you? Surprised I, I don't know. I thought when you marry someone that you're equal to and that kind of way, or somebody you're more compatible with like I'm compatible with my girlfriends, like that you would.
Speaker 1:Would you marry one of them?
Speaker 2:Probably not.
Speaker 1:Why not? I'm just not like that. Look, this isn't about sex it doesn't have to be. No, would you marry one of your girlfriends?
Speaker 2:No, I still wouldn't, because there's just things about them that I like and there's things about them that I don't. I'm sure they feel the same way about me and we get along better when we're friends. We don't see each other that often why don't you see each other?
Speaker 1:no? No, I mean because you literally hate each other. No, we that's what it is no women words into my mouth that not true at all. I didn't put words in your mouth, I said that you did not.
Speaker 2:Life has a way of leading you to do other things so you lose connection. I'm not saying I don't see them. I see them maybe once a month, once every month. We talk all the time, but when you're faced with someone that you have have differences with them, you're not really friends, yes, you are.
Speaker 1:Everyone has differences male female, male, male female, female. You can't tell me you have. This is why your guy friends, come on, we're just too stupid. This is exactly why women have the highest divorce rate. It's like two people wanting more and it's not coming.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 1:God, but you're looking for more from each other and it's not going to be there. Okay, I don't that I. So now there's two people in a relationship and that's why the divorce rate of lesbian couples, lesbian married couples, is so high. It's like 75%.
Speaker 2:Well, that's probably true in any relationship, though.
Speaker 1:A guy, a male, female, no it's like 13 with dudes guys are so lazy they don't want to do it again.
Speaker 2:You're probably right. You're damn right they won't do shit, they're just so lazy they don't care.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah I'll just stick with them, fuck it yeah, right, it's not worth it?
Speaker 2:it's not worth it I'll just roll over and watch tv. Who gives a shit. That's it, though. You know you're, you know what? You're probably right, because guys just don't care right, it's not that they don't care right, you'll misunderstand.
Speaker 2:I'm saying to you, but correct, they just get lazy. They just what. They don't care what they're doing. Whatever the guy will fart on one side, this guy will fart on the other and they don't even care about it. They're just like eh, whatever, they don't care. That's probably why they do last longer that way no, it's because dudes are wired different than women, well, obviously normal.
Speaker 1:That's normal, whatever right, that's not and that's exactly why, uh, heterosexual marriages are in the middle yeah, no, now I see that correct but if you look at heterosexual marriages, it's like 75% of them are initiated by the woman. Okay, 25% are initiated by the man.
Speaker 2:Initiated, like to start dating or get married or initiating.
Speaker 1:No to get divorced.
Speaker 2:Oh, oh, oh oh. Really, yes, I didn't really think it was that high 90% of the time I take that back.
Speaker 1:That high 90% of the time I take that back. It's not 90% of the time, it's about 75% of the time. Okay, the woman initiates the divorce. She wants out because it's going to be better somewhere else.
Speaker 2:Well, okay, I mean, I can see it. I think 75% is a little high, but you can't tell me the guy's not doing it either. Oh, my grass is greener somewhere else. Come on, no.
Speaker 1:No, hang on. No, guys aren't looking at it like that.
Speaker 2:When guys want a divorce, which way are they looking at it then they don't want a divorce. That's not true.
Speaker 1:That's not true at all 25% of the time they want a divorce. Most of the time they don't want a divorce. They want to have their cake and eat it too.
Speaker 2:Oh, well, okay, bang, you hit it right in the head there you go Correct, correct statement. So that's straight truth. Straight truth.
Speaker 1:No, you're 100% right on that one, and we don't want to go through the rigmarole Right.
Speaker 2:You just want to Of getting divorced. Correct Yep, I will.
Speaker 1:Women, for whatever reason, do want that, Because even in a lesbian relationship they still want that and it's weird.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's Never really thought about it like that Really.
Speaker 1:So women are the problem.
Speaker 2:Oh, here we go. Is this the direction we're going in right now?
Speaker 1:No, it's not Okay. Good it's not. But if you read the numbers, and numbers alone, women are the problem.
Speaker 2:Well, numbers are just a statistic. That doesn't mean it happens to everyone. Please come on. Come on, jesus, let's not go there but you.
Speaker 1:It's a glaring fact. It is a glaring fact that that happens, that women, women, want the divorce Lesbian couples have the highest divorce rate of anyone Followed by heterosexuals. Okay, coming up from behind the tortoise men, okay, right, okay, I mean, it's true, okay, that's literally what happens.
Speaker 2:Men are just too lazy to file for divorce.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, you really have to go some way as a woman for a man to want to divorce you.
Speaker 2:No, I mean time out. In any relationship you've got to keep it exciting. If you don't keep it exciting, yes, people like to wander. They get you know they don't lack of interest or whatever. If a guy meets a girl, you are correct. They probably do not want to divorce the wife. If a guy meets a girl, you are correct, they probably do not want to divorce the wife. They would rather just stay and then have their cake of the year too. Women may be the same way. They want to stay with the husband. They have kids. Maybe they met someone on the side, you don't know. Women and women. I'm still a little um confused as to why they would be or have the highest divorce rates as married couples.
Speaker 1:I don't understand that why don't women like women? Because women are very jealous, even exist. Because they don't women hate women.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, yes, they do no, no. That's why women hate men. They hate women, but then they wouldn't be together if they hated women. It doesn't make any sense at all.
Speaker 1:That's why they get divorced so rapidly. No, you're not.
Speaker 2:No, that doesn't make any sense at all. That's why they get divorced so rapidly. No, you're not. No, why does that make any sense? No, they get divorced because they hate each other.
Speaker 1:No, women instinctively just do not like other women.
Speaker 2:I don't think that happens in all cases. Yes, women are jealous, women are catty. Yes, yes, there are women that do hate women, but I I have a. I have very close friends that are I mean, I love them to death. I don't hate them would you marry him? We just talked about that.
Speaker 1:No, because they're just not my no I would marry my best friend okay, good for you I would to to uh, enjoy the tax benefits, the health insurance, baseball. Go do what you want to do, dude, I don't give a shit, I don't give a flying F Right. Go Come home. What do you want? You want some steaks.
Speaker 2:Oh, this is too funny. Dudes are just happy. What are you talking about? You're basically saying that all married women couples are unhappy. That is not true.
Speaker 1:I'm not saying all women couples are unhappy. Okay, I'm saying women in general are just unhappy. I don't think so. They can't, no, and it's society that does it to them what?
Speaker 2:It's not even your fault, okay so why do you say that though?
Speaker 1:Because, like I love natalie portman yep, I find her to be absolutely gorgeous. You have said that you have to look at her all the time in magazines. Now you have to live up to that.
Speaker 2:That's un-fucking-fair well right but you should, but in in a situation you shouldn't know you already have a complex and you, you're three.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't Do you know what I mean, but you have to try and live up to Natalie Portman.
Speaker 2:There's no way anyone could live to Natalie Portman.
Speaker 1:I know, I know, yeah but then you know, but women, for whatever reason, at least in this country and I haven't been out of the country, that often Right, canada, mexico, that's it Right, At least in this country. It is something absolutely stupid that you women have to live up to.
Speaker 2:I don't believe. I don't think that's true at all. Women has to be.
Speaker 1:How easy is it for you to buy a bathing suit?
Speaker 2:Well, it's not really, because everyone's been critical of themselves Exactly.
Speaker 1:Thank you for proving my point.
Speaker 2:That's the thing. They make them all weird too. They make them for models that are like size zero.
Speaker 1:Say that again, please.
Speaker 2:They make them for models that are size zero.
Speaker 1:So you have to live up to that. That's exactly what I'm talking about, I mean, I see your point, yes, but not everyone's bodies are the same. T-bot, you're beautiful. Oh, thank you, you are beautiful, thank you, you're a gorgeous woman, thank you, and you shouldn't have to do that. You're right, but I, Neither should any other woman here Correct, but because you do, you guys are catty and jealous against each other, which sucks.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it sucks. You're right. Society has done this to us.
Speaker 1:Correct Society has done this to you, correct?
Speaker 2:I didn't think of it that way.
Speaker 1:And dudes are just like we're jeeps we're just for getting around.
Speaker 2:Jesus, here we go.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, it's like I would literally just rather sit with my friend and watch football, baseball, basketball, whatever Right, and enjoy all the benefits of being married it's like why wouldn't dudes just get married?
Speaker 2:yeah, I, I don't know, I, I don't, I don't think. Guys just don't want to do that. I just don't. They'd rather. Well, there's a, there's still a rhetoric about it, but well correct, right it's nuts yes, it's nuts. Women hate each other and dudes are just like well, screw them you have to stop saying women hate each other and dudes are just like well, screw them. You have to stop saying women hate each other. I don't.
Speaker 1:I don't because they do, okay, they do hate each other. Oh my god okay it's innate at this point and it's beaten into you from birth.
Speaker 2:That's not true if women hate each other, women would not have any women friends you have women friends I do have women friends. I have guy friends too because you have to learn about tampons and stuff well, that's not from your mother, that's not from your friend or a relative or someone. How did you learn how to masturbate? Oh boy, from your mother, definitely not who have. I really I can't really remember, honestly, what um now I it, it could have been.
Speaker 1:That's why you need them. That's why you need them, oh Jesus.
Speaker 2:Where is this going, holy shit?
Speaker 1:Subject change Now it's just crazy. Men and women instinctively flock to each other. Correct as a group Correct, because you have common things yes, right, agree To each other. Correct as a group Correct Because you have common things yes, right, agree. But women as a group really don't get along that well. Men beat the crap out of each other and then they go get beers, right. Women give each other complexes that they live with for the rest of their lives. No, I don't agree with that 100%. I really don't.
Speaker 2:You don't have to agree with lives. No, I don't agree with that 100%. I really don't.
Speaker 1:You don't have to agree with it. No, it doesn't matter. Yeah, no, but it does happen.
Speaker 2:I'm not saying it doesn't happen. I just think there's definitely a good percentage of people that really will compliment you, bring you up when you're down, always be there for that person and be a sister figure or whatever the case may be. Like all my friends, I love them to death. I think of them as my family and I would do anything for them and I wouldn't if they give me. If they said, kath, what do you think about this dress? I'm like no, that's not for you. It's not giving them a complex, I'm boosting them up to try to find something better.
Speaker 1:True or false?
Speaker 2:Okay, Men I don't. Do I have to say true or false, or can I go 50-50?
Speaker 1:No, true or false. I'm going to go false. Wow, all right.
Speaker 2:Because it depends upon.
Speaker 1:I'm never going to help you out again.
Speaker 2:I'm never helping you out again. It's a lie right there.
Speaker 1:I'm never going to tell you how great you are or how awesome you sound on the show, and all I say, nope, screw that shit.
Speaker 2:It's over. Sorry people, I guess you won't be hearing from me anymore.
Speaker 1:You just blew it. This is T-Bot's last show.
Speaker 2:That's not what I meant, but when you're with girls more than you're with women, when with guys, girls do tend to boost you up more. You understand what if you're not with a lot of guys? No.
Speaker 1:Okay, I feel like women will take you to their level where men will boost you. I feel like if you're in a relationship and somebody's kind of jealous of your relationship, they'll try and knock it down I agree with you on that To bring you to their level. Okay.
Speaker 2:Where a guy will be like no go fucking get it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, you're probably. Yeah, you're right about that one. I will give you that, so I was right. It was true. The answer was actually true when I asked you who? Well circumstantial it's, I can't you I can see that.
Speaker 2:I can see the circumstantial. Thank you.
Speaker 1:But would you say that in your experiences, your girlfriends have talked badly about your relationship to you and told you to get out more than they said no man, keep going. Oh, 100%, there you go 100%, no, 100%. That's girls in a nutshell, that's women. That's females.
Speaker 2:They're awful. I don to throw something at you in about 5 seconds. I threw that in there real quick. You certainly did.
Speaker 1:Women are not awful, they're not.
Speaker 2:You better apologize to everyone. Right now. I'm not apologizing to anybody. I said what I said and you heard it, but women are not awful. No, we are not awful.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you better apologize to everyone. Right now I'm not apologizing to anybody.
Speaker 2:I said what I said and you heard it, but women are not awful. No, we are not awful. I just want to throw a jab at you real quick.
Speaker 1:Of course you did, of course you did Wouldn't be a show without it. That's right, got that right. But it's like. This is why this is happening, and women today, in this day and age, are like you're empowered, you have your own job right, you make your own money, you live your own life. What the fuck, dude? Join the rest of us. Where the hell are you going, you weirdos?
Speaker 2:it's like I want to be gay, oh okay, no, no, you don't it would just be easier to watch baseball with my buddy. Oh gosh, you know what I mean, okay.
Speaker 1:I'm not getting sex anyway, so oh Jesus, here we freaking go.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, Holy shit.
Speaker 1:I don't care, I got a better shot of getting laid. If I'm gay, let's go get some shoes, maybe have some sex.
Speaker 2:I can't with you Seriously, oh man.
Speaker 1:It's honest to God truth.
Speaker 2:No, I can't.
Speaker 1:Straight truth.
Speaker 2:Oh boy Jesus.
Speaker 1:It's just unreal.
Speaker 2:Oh man, no well, I would never be marrying my girlfriends. I do like men, so I would never be gay. Not with that, but that's just my preference.
Speaker 1:There is nothing wrong with being gay. No, there's nothing wrong. I am not gay.
Speaker 2:Nope, I have friends that are I don't care, that's your, I just. I personally am not.
Speaker 1:I would seriously consider marrying one of my best friends. That's a dude. Yeah For everything that marriage offers. Correct, and then just live our lives.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying. Get together on friendly picnics or whatever. Have the friends over. Bye, catch you later.
Speaker 1:I got a date tonight. All right, buddy. See you later. Have a good time.
Speaker 2:It's a real life girl. We do Sunday dinner. It's like, at this point in time, in this stage of life, why wouldn't you? I mean, I've never even thought about it at this point. I I've been single for quite some time. Yeah, I would like to meet somebody companionship wise, whatever but I will never get married. I will never, probably, even date again.
Speaker 1:I'm at where I'm at right now and I just why wouldn't you marry your best friend? Just hang out with all of them? I?
Speaker 2:I hang out with them anyway.
Speaker 1:So enjoy the benefits of being married.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I Do. You know what I mean. Yeah, that's what I'm saying to you, yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't. I'm not saying have sex with them or have a romantic relationship with them. Yeah, why wouldn't you want to enjoy the benefits of being married to your honest, to God best friend? Why Do you want to curl up and eat some Ben and Jerry's tonight and watch?
Speaker 2:The Notebook, right, yeah, but I would not want to get married again, even to have that stamp on my back. I would not want that whole thing Strike me Exactly. Thanks, idiot.
Speaker 1:Hey, I did it once. Yeah, I'm still waiting for ball two.
Speaker 2:Oh boy, oh boy, don't hold your breath on that one.
Speaker 1:No, I'm not, I'm not, but seriously, that was where this whole show was going. Yeah, I mean there's tax advantages. Of course, there is Inheritance rights.
Speaker 2:Yes, there's a whole slew of stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's social security, there's health insurance, there's shared property. There's all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but isn't there like a catch? Isn't there some kind of catch?
Speaker 1:There can't be anymore. If you're going to fucking put pronouns in this thing, there cannot be any more catches. Okay, if you could be a cat, I can marry my best friend, oh God.
Speaker 2:Do you know what I mean? I can marry my best friend.
Speaker 1:Oh God Do you know what I mean. Yeah, well, okay, if you want to be a cat, I don't care, it's up to you, right? But if you can be a cat, I can marry my best friend, and there's no one in this country that can tell me I can not. Yeah, right, and it feels better because my best friend might be a woman. Who knows, true, could. I don't know God, who knows what he's doing now, it them her plus Minus. I don't even know. I don't either. I don't even know. It's so hard nowadays to even discuss that type of thing, because there are so many pronouns and so many it's like who?
Speaker 2:are you offending I?
Speaker 1:know which one of you people needs a participation trophy right now? Yeah, right.
Speaker 1:It's like shut the fuck up, and I meant that in the nicest way, because it's hard for everyone else. Yeah, now, I know, I get it. We understand it's hard for you. Right, I get it Right, but, man, it's hard for me. Mm-hmm, do you know what I mean? Yeah, so if you want me to understand you Right, please understand me. Right, right, a hundred percent. So I don't care what you do, mm called, I don't care who you are. Yeah, if you're a good person, I'll do whatever the hell you want. Agree, just do the same to me, right, that's it, right. And it really starts to get a little muddy because there's all these letters. You know, I know, oh, yeah, it's the lego plus. It's the only thing I can say, because I can never remember which order they're going. I can't either. I know it's lgbtq plus I believe, that's what it is right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I, I stand up for your community. I sure I get you. It's your life right, live it whatever we want. But man, I can't remember all those letters. Yeah, so you're legos, that's all I got. Sorry, I am sorry, but man, you're legos.
Speaker 2:Uh, plus, legos are fun legos are fun, right, love legos, just don't step on them. Nope, they hurt like a mother don't go, step on.
Speaker 1:No, legos, don't hurt anyway. What else you got for me?
Speaker 2:anything uh, no, I guess you pretty much uh covered all of it I still got more, but we're coming to the end.
Speaker 1:We got about two minutes left.
Speaker 2:What are we going to talk about? Your underwear? Oh my God, what?
Speaker 1:Did I catch you off guard? Yeah, did I? Yeah, oh, you're not wearing any, are you Okay? Time to go. All right, see, that's how you get her to end it. Oh my God, otherwise she would have kept going all day. She just talks, and talks, and talks.
Speaker 2:People like to hear my voice. No, that's definitely not me, definitely not me.
Speaker 1:Oh, T-Bot, we do still have another minute before we can hang up.
Speaker 2:Jeez, Well, wait time out.
Speaker 1:I want to know which best friend you'd marry. Well, I'm not saying anybody's name on the air, it wouldn't matter no, I guess it wouldn't matter, because if, if it happened, like if it was beneficial for everyone, no, I totally get what you're saying right.
Speaker 2:I can. You're right.
Speaker 1:Could be male or female, correct anyone that's not right, it's not even a romantic sexual relationship, it's just like let's just do this for tax purposes, right, and you got a better job than I do, so let's give me some health benefits I do have a better job than you do.
Speaker 2:That is a true story.
Speaker 1:And then it's a whole different ballgame, because then you get into all different uh situations. Oh, if you will, hey, this girl's coming over, yeah, oh, hey, what's going on? Yeah, hey, what are you doing here tonight? He's not home right now. Uh, just handle her for me, like oh my god right, like just so many things are gonna happen. It'd be so much. It'd be like living bachelor life, true, with all the benefits of being married. It's incredible.
Speaker 2:It is true now, and if anybody, there's got to be people out there doing this. I can't imagine there's not people doing it.
Speaker 1:There has got to be Right, because this is just too good of an idea Right To not do.
Speaker 2:There's got to be some catch though.
Speaker 1:Unfortunately for you, you're female, so you'll probably end up divorced. Jesus, that's just the numbers. Share numbers. That's it All right Share numbers.
Speaker 2:Okay, you'll end up divorced and you'll be happy because we'll be marrying your best friend.
Speaker 1:Oh, you'll be over here With me and my buddy True, I'm moving in. Me and my buddy True, I'm moving in. You guys got an extra room.
Speaker 2:I'm a female and I got divorced.
Speaker 1:I can't even cook. Don't worry, my buddy can.
Speaker 2:Lee so funny.
Speaker 1:Oh God, we are at the end now.
Speaker 2:Thank God. This has been fun.
Speaker 1:All right, everybody. Thanks for stopping by, thanks for listening. Go get married and, as always, be good. Hey everybody, it's Ditto. I want to give a shout out to my buddy, larry over at Legendary Graphics. He designed our logo for us. It came out fantastic. He does wraps. He does all kinds of customized stuff for you. If you get a chance, go to legendarycom. That's legendarycom. Check it out for anything you need. All right, guys, thanks, be good.
Speaker 2:So keep to me.
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Speaker 2:Sake to me.
