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The Ripple Effect of Labor Unrest
Discover the intricate world of logistics and labor dynamics as Detto and T-Bot, unravel the cascading effects of the recent dock workers' strike. How do halted container movements at ports spell trouble for global supply chains, especially with the holiday season fast approaching? We'll dissect the root causes behind the strike, including demands for higher wages and concerns over automation-induced job losses, alongside the tentative agreements in place to ease tensions. Join us for an insightful journey into the ripple effects that labor disputes have on economies worldwide.
Ever felt like you're shouldering more than your fair share at work? Our deep dive into labor negotiations draws parallels to intense courtroom battles, where the stakes are high, and the outcomes are uncertain. With benefits and pay at the heart of these disputes, we discuss the importance of aligning company profitability with employee satisfaction. And just to lighten the mood, we share a hilarious road rage story, proving that sometimes the most irrational behaviors emerge in the most mundane situations.
Our exploration wouldn't be complete without examining modern work culture and the shifting tides of work ethic and time management. From the rise of absenteeism post-COVID to the irony of wage expectations versus work output, we paint a candid picture of today's workplace. Personal anecdotes about tardiness and unreliable colleagues add a humorous twist, as we emphasize the timeless value of accountability and showing up. Tune in to navigate the evolving landscape of work and logistics with us, complete with engaging insights and a few laughs along the way.
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Hey everybody, welcome to Saki Tubi. Welcome back, everybody. It's Ditto. We're here today with D-Bot and we're going to talk about the dock workers, so we're going to get into it a little bit. Stay tuned, see what happens. All right, see you in a minute. Hey everybody, it's Ditto, we're back Back here with D-Bot, hey. Hey, we're talking about the dock workers. Holy cats.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, that's a nightmare.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's going to affect everything.
Speaker 2:You have no idea.
Speaker 1:I don't, it's kind of huge.
Speaker 2:It is kind of huge, kind of huge.
Speaker 1:Yep, and that's what I wanted you to tell us about because, honestly, that's your big girl job, that's my big girl job, I job. I haven't read anything into it because to me I don't care.
Speaker 2:No, well, you kind of should, because it's going to affect pricing and when you want deliveries at Christmas time and all that kind of stuff. Someassemblynet.
Speaker 1:And there it is. But they suspended the strike, they reached a tentative deal. That's all I know. Okay, I know nothing about any of this. Okay, I don't know what it means. I know it's affecting a lot of things. It is affecting a lot of things and I know it's Well. Let's hope that they Importing, exporting Right, alright, give me some light on it.
Speaker 2:Okay, so I do not work at the ports. I wanted to simply clarify that I work in logistics.
Speaker 2:I was going to say in logistics, I was going to say you do not work. Okay, alright, Gotcha. So my job is logistics, which means that I deal with the ports. So I have those containers that go on the cargo vessels. So my job is to put whatever I am shipping into the containers and the containers go to the ports. Now, since this strike has started a couple days ago, they're not accepting containers or they're not giving us containers, so everything is literally kemped with standstill.
Speaker 1:Why not? Why aren't they accepting them? What's going on? What's causing this?
Speaker 2:They are striking. I understand that part, but why? Because they want more money, doesn't everybody? Again, they should have it, they should have more money, and I guess Doesn't everybody. Well, and again, they should have it, they should have more money. And I guess the biggest one, to my understanding, was that they want to make most of their jobs automated, which would get rid of a lot of people's jobs. That's coming, dude, it is coming, it is coming.
Speaker 1:Listen, I tell all of you all the time that stuff's going to happen. Ai is the next one. It's coming. I agree. You can't stop it. It's going to steamroll you. It's going to be huge. It's going to take a lot of jobs from a lot of people.
Speaker 2:I agree. Well, and that's part of the problem. So I haven't watched the news today as to what they tentatively agreed on, but it's been three days. This is day three, correct? I have no idea it's been day three.
Speaker 1:I'm asking you honestly, because I don't know anything about this, so I can't even argue, because I know absolutely zero facts. Okay, this is more of an infomercial than anything else. Okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I get that. So that's what I do. I deal with logistics, which is what I deal with the cargo vessels. I send the containers out onto the cargo vessels, they drive them to the ports and the ports will put them on the containers. We get that Right.
Speaker 2:So I said to you that everything has been a standstill. So my customers aren't happy. Nothing is going out. No one is happy. There's deadlines that have to be met because the stuff that we ship out has to go somewhere. So nothing is going out. So your job has to be a nightmare. Right now it is a complete nightmare and we are scrambling as to what to do. But tentative agreement is a good sign. But the three days that they have tentatively been well, they have been out has caused already a backlog because on any given day there could be a hundred containers that go out from our company that go out. So you got to figure there's 100 containers that aren't going out. Now let's multiply that by, say, three days of not going out, that's 300 containers not having moved out, With all my Christmas presents, With all the Christmas presents. So it's going to be a bit of a backlog to try to get everything organized. And there was talk that prices may go up for food and vegetables and all that, oh God, not again, right.
Speaker 1:What kind of nonsense is this? I know, I know Every time you turn around right now, everything's going up again.
Speaker 2:Again, I hear you Well, because you got to figure they stopped working. So there's stuff sitting on those.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but a couple years ago the things were stuck out at sea, right, the cargo ships, yep, we couldn't get them in here, right, why they weren't striking then?
Speaker 2:I can't remember that one Wasn't there. A it also drove up all the prices. Well right, but there was something major was going on about that, and I can't remember what it was this will be two Christmases in a row that I'm getting screwed. Well, I'm hoping that they'll catch up, but it will be a little bit of a disadvantage for a lot of people.
Speaker 1:What is going on in this world right now? What is going on I don't know, but keep going. I'm sorry to interrupt.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, You're fine, but I mean it's been a little stressful for me.
Speaker 1:So what is the strike over?
Speaker 2:Just the money, money and the fact that I think they were talking about getting rid of a lot of people.
Speaker 1:Because they wanted to do automated. You can automate things, correct. Faster whatever the case may be, get used to it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know how that got settled. If it got settled, that's the biggest thing.
Speaker 1:Life is changing right before our eyes right now. And people are working from home, right, right, a lot of people are working from home, right, right, a lot of people are working from home, correct? And that is skyrocketing housing prices, mm-hmm. Right, so this is the way it's going to be. It's never going to go back to where it was, definitely not. Nothing goes in reverse when you're talking about stuff like this, right? So here we are, and now AI is coming out. Yep, and now ai can do anything for you. They can do anything for you, right, you can. We have two ai things on our website, right, we do. Yep, sakitumicom, there's two people. There's a male one and a female one. I like to call them pronouns, but god, you can ask them questions and they'll tell you answers and they'll do whatever. And it's's supposed to be fun. It's scary, it is scary, it's really scary. Yes, it is, because these things are going to take over. Oh, they are, and people are so stupid they're going to allow it. I know.
Speaker 2:It's a way of the future. People are just going to be out of jobs.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, but you got to look at it like, like this at the same time, henry ford, even though he put people in business, took away.
Speaker 2:A lot of stuff came up with the assembly line.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, you're right. Yep, he changed things. He did. Rockefeller did too with trains. Oh right, they changed things, right the way things were done, and there's always stuff like that. Oh yeah, you have to be ready to go with it. You have to, and I've said for years now, like, look, if you want to know the future, look to your kids. It's true it's kind of like you're looking backwards, but you have to look to your kids, right, because they know more than you do at this point.
Speaker 2:It's so sad.
Speaker 1:It's not sad at all. I call my kids sometimes when.
Speaker 2:I can't figure out something.
Speaker 1:Do you remember your grandparents sitting there saying I don't know how kids make it in this day and age? Make it in this day and age? Yes, it's not like the way it used to be. No kidding, because life only goes in one direction. It's true and that's forward, I know. So, if you want to look at it like it was cool man, good for you. I used to love it in high school Well then, you're a loser and you're stuck. Seriously.
Speaker 2:A lot of people are stuck like that.
Speaker 1:Again, there's a reason why the windshield's bigger than the rearview mirror.
Speaker 2:That's true, that is true.
Speaker 1:But here we are and life is changing. It is. Life is always evolving, no matter what, and now, with this stuff, it's like you just have to be able to figure out how to adapt to it.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:If you want to get pissed off that you lost your job. Sorry dude, you should have seen it coming. Really, you should have seen it coming.
Speaker 2:Well, sometimes people don't see layoffs coming.
Speaker 1:Nobody sees a layoff coming.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, it's still a new job, but you see the AI coming Well.
Speaker 1:You see the assembly line coming Right.
Speaker 2:And you see stuff like that.
Speaker 1:I mean, yeah, and you know, you know damn well, it's going to change Every single company on this planet. Their overall mission is to become more efficient, and if that means cutting people to bring in machines, you know what's going to happen. Yeah, I know, you know this Right, but you got treated unfairly because you got fired or laid off Right, whatever. But you should have seen it coming. You should have, and you better hone your skills on anything you can to make sure that you have a safety net.
Speaker 2:True.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean that is true, but that's not either here or there. That will be another episode for another day. That's about, like college kids Go to a trade school. Seriously, learn a trade. Learn a trade.
Speaker 2:We already had this once. Yes, we did. Yeah, it's true, it's true.
Speaker 1:No, you disagreed with me.
Speaker 2:I did. I still think college is not a bad thing.
Speaker 1:I didn't say college was a bad thing. I said it's not necessary, it's not. This is all the business and all that stuff evolving.
Speaker 2:No, I get it.
Speaker 1:So college is not necessarily necessary.
Speaker 2:It still needs some kind of education, but anyway, we need to talk about that.
Speaker 1:I think you need some education. That's all I'm saying. Wow, you see that. Wow, see where I went, right there. See how.
Speaker 2:I twist that around, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Anyway, I need to know more about this. Like what it was just money that caused?
Speaker 2:this. I think it was money and benefits, and I think, from what my understanding is, and again, and shut down the country uh, yeah okay, I just want to make sure I was right. In a nutshell, I think there's probably more to it and they're unionized, so there's always that, um, but I think I know I have a love hate relationship with unions.
Speaker 1:Go ahead. Yes, I I was in a union. I worked for a major soft drink company when I was younger and the union was great to me, but I could see why it's a pain in the ass.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Because there were a bunch, a lot of lazy fucks Right that were protected by it. It's true, it's like, come on, man, you're not doing your job, why do I have to do your job now? And I was like, well, if he doesn't have to do it, I don't have to do it. So the so? Then the company suffers, but the company's going to rape you. Wow, they will. The company will take everything they can from you and give nothing back. Okay, so I understand the necessity of unions. Uh-huh, I get it, and that's right. Rise up, stand together Right, or this company can't work.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:But there are people that will just abuse it and it's awful. And now are these people doing that.
Speaker 2:They have been negotiating, I think since February, with whoever they need to negotiate with, and I guess this was the end result, because I just could not come to some kind of agreement. They kept saying they were going to walk out. They kept negotiating and negotiating and this is what happened. Can I ask a question?
Speaker 1:Sure how hard is it to agree on something I how hard?
Speaker 2:I don't think it's hard at all, it's not right. But I mean, obviously they, these guys, were not happy or they wouldn't have walked out.
Speaker 1:So I don't know. It seems like this is like a court battle between ex-husband and ex-wife. And now you're dealing with money.
Speaker 2:Again, I think it's more than that. There's also benefits included. There's like a you know, I don't know everything they're asking for, because I'm just I'm dealing with the other end of it, so I'm not really, you know, into exactly what they want. I know those were issues and the fact that they were talking about automating some of their jobs. So Are they trying to save the jobs? That's what I don't know, and maybe that may be why they walked out. Maybe they said they were going to and they did. I don't know.
Speaker 1:I highly doubt they walked out over the jobs Because nobody knows who's going to lose it and who's not.
Speaker 2:Correct. I think it's more benefits and money. Honestly, say it again Benefits and money.
Speaker 1:It's the worst it is. That's why I said it's like a court battle.
Speaker 2:It is.
Speaker 1:A husband and wife, yep. And who's going to get what and who's going to get what out of who?
Speaker 2:It's sad because you need both of them these days. Oh God, the way the economy is going. You need benefits, you need money. It's awful, don't get married it's got nothing to do with marriage.
Speaker 1:Marriage is good for life marriage is good for two things taxes and insurance it's got nothing to do with, that's it seems like it's going to go in a direction. Well, maybe not, I don't know now with this news, but it seems like you go to court, you can't come to an agreement. I agree, you have to give something to get something.
Speaker 2:I mean you're talking a union, so you're talking about a bunch of people. It's not just individuals. How many people know how many people are on the union? It's not that's a board, maybe or something.
Speaker 1:I don't know how that works. It's probably about 20 people total, 10 on one side, 10 on another. Okay, they're all different, but I'm saying, sure, they sit in a room and they figure out which one wants to be a bigger dick.
Speaker 2:Probably right. It's a dick swinging contest. That's all it is.
Speaker 1:It really is. It's like look, you know how you make money. When everybody makes money and everybody is happy, Correct? If you give your employees a happy thing to do, they're going to make you money Of course so pay them more?
Speaker 1:Right, because you're going to make more money. But if you're too greedy? And then it comes to the point, at what point are you too greedy? I realize you have to run a business, you've got expenses, you have to pay for everything, you need to make a profit, you have to buy equipment and you want to have your own paycheck. So how much can you afford to pay them? I understand that, but the more you can pay them and lower your bottom line, the happier they're going to be and they're going to raise your bottom line. It's simple math.
Speaker 2:It's simple math. I totally agree with you there.
Speaker 1:It's just incredible to me that people in this day and age are still so fucking stupid. They're so stupid, they're drivers workers just so stupid?
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, speaking of stupid, I was going to work, oh yeah. So I see this guy. I'm in the fast lane because I'm getting off the exit, so that's where I'm supposed to be. And then there's the middle lane and I see in the rear view mirror some guy coming bad out of hell.
Speaker 1:Was it me? Because it usually is. I'm trying to run people off the road.
Speaker 2:And so I purposely kind of speed up because there was a gap. I'm like this is ridiculous. He's got about 90. I'm going to piss him off. So he ridiculous, he's got about 90. I'm gonna piss him off. So he gets right next to me and kirk's like nudging me, now to me. I'm like, are you serious? So I, I just like you know what was this daytona, daytona, just keep going.
Speaker 2:Oh my goodness. So I back off. I'm like, wow, dude, you got one car in front of me and he sat in front of me until I got off the exit. So unnecessarily a waste of time to get one car length in front People are so dumb that they will do that for one car length.
Speaker 1:Buddy, how much faster did you get here than me, right? Exactly, you, idiot. You're in front of me. You would have gotten here a lot faster if you knew how to drive, right, but you don't.
Speaker 2:It just aggravates me, very aggravating.
Speaker 1:Apparently it aggravates everyone it does Because there's a lot of road rage out there. There is A lot of road rage there is. I want to kill people.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know We've gone over this. I feel the same way. There's episodes on this.
Speaker 1:It's documented, I don't have to go into it now. But man, oh man, the people that take a right turn from the left lane, I just want to kill. I want to get out of the car and smash the tail lights. Oh my goodness, obviously I won't do that, but that's what I was asking about. The dock workers yeah, and this is always. What it comes down to is money.
Speaker 2:Well, yes, I mean, I understand, it's huge. No, it's not.
Speaker 1:I mean, although, understand, it's huge, no, it's not. I mean although Most of the time I would I don't know off the top of my head, but I would say at least 75% of the time you're living outside your means. Yes, and it's not a hard thing to fix, but you want to keep up with the Joneses, of course.
Speaker 2:Doesn't everybody?
Speaker 1:So then we get stuff like this. Right Now I don't think anybody on the docks is not making any money.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:They're all making some sort of income.
Speaker 2:Right, but maybe they're not making enough to justify what they're asked to do. I understand, you know what I mean. I don't know every last detail.
Speaker 1:In today's economy, I can understand that, right. But to hamper the economic system of the country for a couple of bucks an hour, I agree. I kind of want to say fuck you, I agree. You know what I mean. Yep, just get back to work and shut up, I agree. But on the flip side of that token, the companies that pay these people have to understand pay this man his money, pay him, yeah right. The people have to understand pay this man his money, pay him, yeah right. The happier they are, exactly the more they'll work, right. So pay them right. Don't be a dick, right? Ebenezer scrooge, listen here. Pay this guy. Pay with the. Uh, what the hell is it making? It's making ebenezer scrooge, and not tiny. Who's tiny?
Speaker 2:tim's father oh, oh, um, oh, my gosh not jiminy cricket no, it doesn't matter but pay that guy.
Speaker 1:The guy wants to take a piece of coal home to his family worm let him take the piece of coal. Yeah, right, holy shit. Cratchit bob, cratchit, yeah, but that's you can see it right there. Yeah, in that cartoon, right cartoon. In that story, like the owner is so greedy that he doesn't get enough out of anything and he loses everything, the best way to make money is to pay everybody. Right, it's as simple as that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're happy.
Speaker 1:The happier your employees are, the better off you're going to be. Mm-hmm, it's like some people will come to work and they're so happy just to work. Right, just to work. Yeah, they'll take $3 an hour.
Speaker 2:Yes, I know that's ridiculously low. It was an example. That's a rotten example.
Speaker 1:No, it was a great example because it's supposed to be low. They almost don't care what they get paid because they get to work. And then you get people that want 30 bucks an hour and can't do a goddamn thing. Oh, I know an hour and can't do a goddamn thing. Oh, I know they suck. Mm-hmm, they're awful Right. It's like dude, how'd you get out of bed this morning? Your shoes are on the wrong feet, your shirt's backwards and your hair ain't combed and you got $30 an hour Right. Hang on there, big guy. No, fucking no, uh-uh. But at this point in time, in this society right now, it's so hard to get anyone to come to work Now.
Speaker 2:I know that you would actually pay them 30 bucks an hour.
Speaker 1:You have no idea, just to get them to show up. Yep. Now I know they have every excuse in the book, every excuse, and now you can blame everything on COVID.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Well, I mean, yeah, you can.
Speaker 1:I can't come to work today and then you can't do anything about it, because if they have COVID, it's like FNLA or whatever. Oh right, we have given out participation trophies everywhere. It's disgusting. Everybody has an excuse to do whatever the hell they want. Yeah, it's true, and not have any repercussions.
Speaker 2:No, don't care.
Speaker 1:I have a headache.
Speaker 2:It's like half the stuff that they do. I wish I would have the balls enough to do it myself, but I guess I have better morals. You do, I just can't do it, and that's what makes you a good person.
Speaker 1:I get that. It's not that you don't have the balls. You know it's the wrong thing to do.
Speaker 2:Right, Just how I was raised. That's correct. We have where I work I work remote, but where they are, they don't want to show up for work. They just don't show up. I don't get that. How does that work?
Speaker 1:It's a mental health day.
Speaker 2:I don't understand. It's awful. It's awful. I could never do that.
Speaker 1:I want to slug it I feel so guilty. I legit want to slug those people in the face.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:I have mental health problems too, are the cases I mean, I have not, I have those days also, right, I don't take them off. Yeah, you get up, you go to work, you fight through it exactly stupid dick.
Speaker 1:Don't give me that shit. Lazy piece of seeming like a nice lady. Holy cats, really blind. I'll tell you that for free it does. It drives me nuts. I know people that do stuff that just seems so I just want to walk up to them and punch them Right Like legit. It depends. If it's a dude, maybe in the dick, if it's a girl, probably in the boob.
Speaker 2:I don't know Really. No, I'm not going to hit anybody.
Speaker 1:Okay, but I think about it.
Speaker 2:I'm sure you do.
Speaker 1:And I'm sure I'm not the only one.
Speaker 2:I'm sure you're not.
Speaker 1:I'm sure everyone thinks about this stuff. Oh yeah, because it's crazy, mm-hmm and they can get away with it. They can get away with it.
Speaker 2:I know, for whatever reason.
Speaker 1:I just wasn't raised that way.
Speaker 2:This is okay, yeah, that's what I'm saying. I don't get that, it's not okay.
Speaker 1:You. I'm always where I have to be when I have to be there, I'll be it late. True story but I will be there no matter what, because that's what you do. My clock runs on dead batteries. I'm always late for everything.
Speaker 2:I'm going to be late for my own funeral oh yeah, oh, totally wait, let me jump in, I was late.
Speaker 1:Hang on, I'll have no pants on. Throwing the coat over my shoulder, trying to throw it on as I'm running. Do my tie Lay in the casket? I'm like I'm dead.
Speaker 2:I have a few friends that I know are perpetually late and I always tell them a half an hour to 45 minutes, it doesn't. It works every time, no. It lessens my stress level and they show up and we're all happy, ready to go. Works every time, no it doesn't.
Speaker 1:Yes, it does, no, it doesn't. Okay, do you want me to explain to you why? Well, maybe that's how you operate, but it fucking pissed.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, that's you.
Speaker 1:That's me. Yes, should be them too. No, sir, if you have to tell me, I tell them. They know that you can tell me the right time and then I am allowed to go out and decide whether decide the level of importance on this event. If I have to be there at 9 o'clock, I'll be there at 9 o'clock. If you tell me it's 8.30 and I find out it's 9 o'clock and you lie to me, I'm there half an hour early and I have to stand there and wait. Oh man, am I going to lose it?
Speaker 2:No, that's not what I'm talking about. Am I going to lose it? No, no, no, no, that's not.
Speaker 1:That's exactly what you just said If it's a place of a. I will lose it, okay, and you will be unhappy with that. Okay, so I would advise you not to do that to me. I haven't ever done it to you. Yes, you have Nope, you just did it for this podcast. Okay, we're a half an hour early and I had to wait for you.
Speaker 2:You're so full of crap.
Speaker 1:No, that really happened. Everyone, that really happened. He's lying. This is what she does. This is what she does. Anyway, we're getting to the end of this one. Oh wow, it goes by fast, so fast, when you really actually sit down and have fun. This is a third podcast in a row that we have not had an actual topic, and all of them are probably gonna be boring as but we have fun just going through it. Oh yeah, talking about life and stuff.
Speaker 2:Yep, now I'm glad we got into the ship workers, because that's whole thing's crazy it is crazy and I hope they get all it resolved and get what they want.
Speaker 1:They deserve it I hope daddy wins. Oh boy, daddy wins in court, you know. I hope he gets all the money okay um, but it was good to get your insight on it. Yeah, so I appreciate that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no problem.
Speaker 1:So we're here at the end now. So everybody, thanks for listening, thanks for tuning in and, as always, be good. Hey everybody, it's Ditto. I just want to give a quick shout out to my buddy, larry over at legendarygraphicscom. He's the one that came up with our logo. Came out fantastic, he does amazing work, and that's LegendaryGFXcom. Look him up Saki Dumi. Hey everybody, it's Ditto. Thanks for checking out our show today. Hope you enjoyed it. If you did, subscribe to us, we can hook up, interact. You can tell us what you like about the show, talk about what you don't like about the show, give us information and insight. We'd appreciate it. We only want to make the show better for you guys. Also, if you get a chance, head over to someassemblynet.
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