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The Harmony Blueprint
Get ready to uncover the secrets of a well-balanced life with our special guest, life coach and attorney Vinny. From his unique approach to guiding clients toward self-discovered solutions to juggling the roles of attorney, dog rescuer, and stepfather, Vinny’s insights are invaluable for anyone looking to manage a hectic yet fulfilling lifestyle. This episode is brimming with humor, personal stories, and practical advice that will leave you feeling inspired to find harmony in your own life.
We promise you'll gain a fresh perspective on personal growth and maintaining balance, especially as life progresses. Learn why sticking to old habits while expecting new results is a recipe for stagnation and why it's never too late to pursue your passions, even in your 40s or 50s. Vinny and I discuss the importance of making yourself a priority and how personal well-being can positively influence those around you. By sharing our own experiences, we highlight the value of quality time with loved ones and demonstrate how a strong work ethic and family presence can coexist beautifully.
On the familial front, Vinny candidly discusses the challenges of raising a stepson and navigating the complex world of youth sports culture. From differing parental expectations to the pressures of travel sports, his anecdotes provide a real look into the realities of modern parenting. We also delve into the intricacies of co-parenting in a blended family, emphasizing the importance of open communication and mutual respect. Finally, we touch on the topics of men’s mental health, political and religious views, and the impact of media influence, offering a comprehensive and thought-provoking conversation that spans across various facets of life. Don't miss this engaging episode packed with humor, insight, and valuable life lessons.
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Hey, everybody, welcome to.
Speaker 1:Saki Tubi.
Speaker 3:Hey everybody, down on life a little bit. You need some help. Check out today's episode. We've got a guest. His name is Vinny. He's here. He's a life coach. Check it out, see what he has to say, see what he has to do and contact him. Certainly can't hurt, right.
Speaker 1:Saki to me.
Speaker 3:Hey everybody, it's Daryl. We're back with another episode of Sakatumi. We got Casey here.
Speaker 2:Hello everyone.
Speaker 3:Casey, tell us who else we have with us.
Speaker 2:We have my friend Vinny, yeah, buddy.
Speaker 4:What's up everyone?
Speaker 3:What's up, Vin? How are you?
Speaker 4:I'm living the dream, my friend.
Speaker 3:There you go.
Speaker 4:Just out here doing the Lord's work, trying to get in a good podcast. See what the hell happens today probably you.
Speaker 3:You're going to a sleepaway camp soon uh, absolutely, I actually run it. So yeah, buddy, it's overnight sometimes sounds more like a nightmare than the dream.
Speaker 4:I'm not gonna lie here might be some people's nightmares at my camp, but anyways, we're not gonna go there today because that's dangerous that's the next episode. Yes, so what's going?
Speaker 3:on, not much much. We got you in here. I've been dying to get you on here.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm excited. This is my second guest appearance on a podcast. I'm feeling almost famous. If I get one more. I'm fucking Justin Bieber there you go.
Speaker 4:That's it. I'm going to be really important pretty soon. That was my what's your podcast. Tell everybody. Uh, my podcast is change of plans. Um, we usually do it once a week, usually wednesdays, but we're moving into thursdays this week because of you guys and being so gracious and let me uh crash your podcast, so pretty excited about that. Um, it's probably similar to this one. We we talk about, um, everyday stuff, usually do a rundown of the week and then I do some life coaching on top of what I really do for work. We tie in some of that stuff, me and my partner Joe. We just go out and have fun, kick it a little bit. I'm excited to be on this one. It's always good to chat with different people, figure out everyone's views and all that stuff. I'm excited. I'm going to go with the flow. Hopefully I don't kill your viewership or listenership.
Speaker 3:It'd be, really hard It'd be really hard to do that, but no, we're glad to have you here.
Speaker 4:It's going to be a good time. We were kicking it a little earlier. I think we have some good vibes. I know I had to pull you away from your video games so you were pretty excited when I got here.
Speaker 3:Well, it is Bond Goldeneye.
Speaker 4:I mean, I don't know what you're talking about, but you were in it to win it.
Speaker 3:You know what Get out of here? Just get out of here.
Speaker 4:Well, your dog did pee on me too, she did.
Speaker 3:That's our mascot, Ms Mance.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm in with the dog.
Speaker 3:She petted her floor. Now she's just showing right next to your feet.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's a good time. It's good times. So, life coaching, how's that go? It's um. So this is the way I describe it, and my technique is not. I'm not going to give you advice. I'm not here to, um, tell you what to do, because what I did for myself may not work for you. So I think the you know people are lumping into the therapy, but I think therapy makes you aware of what your problems may be, but you don't get the solutions right. You go every week you're talking the same shit to your therapist. I have these issues. They're like hey, you have these issues that I'm like no shit, but how do you fix it?
Speaker 4:I think that for me, my coaching style is just, it's very conversational, kind of like this uh, but through the questions I ask you figure out what works for you. So, um, and and it can be anything Like I focus on balance in life. So it's not I'm not going to help you get rich or do this, that. And the third, it's really finding that balance between your professional life, your personal life, your health and that wheel of life that you have. If you cut up your wheel of life into pies, you have a family aspect, you have your professional aspect, you have your health aspect, you have family aspect, you have your professional aspect, you have your health aspect, you have your business aspect and it's really trying to find that balance of where you're at. So that's what I really try to focus on.
Speaker 4:Um, you know, I started about a year ago. Um, but I'm also an attorney, so that which takes up the majority of my time. Um, but I got through the coaching. Um, wow, wow. This was getting real sensitive. I didn't realize this was a manly show. So fuck that shit. If you got problems, deal with it yourself and if they don't like it, punch them in the face. No, I was just kidding. Yeah, that was really getting really sentimental. So, um, but that's kind of what I do on the side. I got I'm an attorney by day. I got a dog rescue. That's kind of what I do.
Speaker 1:Really yeah, so I got a positive paradise rescue.
Speaker 4:It's ran out of Nashville and we run the dogs up here and we just got like eight in from Honduras that we're placing. We get them from all over the country. We work with other rescues, so I do that and then I got a stepson.
Speaker 2:So busy with the football baseball so you're running around, you're balancing work and life you have a lot of free time.
Speaker 4:It sounds like no, but what I? Well, it's wild. Like for me, like I didn't have kids of my own, so I'm learning. The parent balances was interesting, but what I find is that, um, you know, I really don't like being a lawyer, but it allows me to pursue things that I'm really passionate about. So, yeah, I mean I'm sure you guys know too that like you're busy working all day, but like, if you're doing something you're passionate about, it's not really work exactly right. So like you know, you both work all day. Then you come to the podcast, like it may be the last thing you want to do, but it's actually fun because you're passionate about it. So, like I have a lot of stuff going on, I tend to take on a lot of things, but it's a passionate thing. So for me it's not really work.
Speaker 3:I find myself literally sitting here for like 12 hours after work just staring at a screen, which I never thought I would have done. Yeah, I love it. I think it's like my biggest hobby that I think I've had Not in older Besides softball but uh, oh, one of those guys oh yeah, is that your softball shirt?
Speaker 4:this guy's wearing his big dog softball shirt.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, what's up, big dog?
Speaker 4:yeah um, that's, that is funny. I knew you were a softball guy you can tell by my shirt. Ah, just tell, by your energy, bro, you got that softball guy.
Speaker 3:Energy like you should have been a private eye. Yeah, you can pick up on the little clues yeah, I'm like a human lie detector too.
Speaker 4:Like it's hilarious. But, like you said, you find your passion projects and I think it changes as you get older right, that's where I was going.
Speaker 3:It most certainly does, and actually I want to get into you a little bit because that sounded weird, by the way he's not getting into me right now.
Speaker 4:There's no video on here, so I'm not trying to find that shit on the internet very rarely do I do something like that, but I did it right there your kids say pause or cap or like whatever say when I want to talk about getting older, because I've noticed changes that nobody ever talks about.
Speaker 3:There's things in I'm like what the hell is going on?
Speaker 4:right now, but but but I think it's crazy that people don't you're right, people don't talk about it but like, like it's a bad thing. Like, if you're doing the same shit at 45 that you you were doing at 30 you got. That's the fucking issue. Right, like that, that is that is the issue. Like, when you're talking to people and they're like, oh, I want to do this. I wish I was here. Well, what have you been doing to get there, if you're doing the same shit you did yesterday and expecting a different result?
Speaker 3:that's insanity.
Speaker 4:Yeah, right like it is, but like it's okay to be in a different spot in life because that's where you want to be when you're older.
Speaker 3:And you need to change.
Speaker 4:You definitely need to change and I think also, too, it's okay to make a change now, right, yes, we're supposed to be here at this age group, like 45, we're supposed to have it all figured out. But I don't want to have it all figured out. I want to be able to adjust and change. Like I want to be able to adjust and change. Like you know, if I want to pursue a passion at 45 or 50, let me go do it Right, as long as it's not at the detriment to everything else I have going in life. But I just don't understand the I'm so. You know people are so worried about change, or you have these expectations.
Speaker 3:That's how they get stuck in those ruts, yeah, and then everything fails because you're not fulfilling yourself.
Speaker 4:Well, correct. I think if I tell my clients, and especially parents, have a difficult time with it is making yourself the number one priority. Yeah, right, and it sounds selfish, but everything starts with you, so if you're good then, your wife or your girlfriend's good, your kids are good, your employees or coworkers are good, but when you're having a bad day, I promise you it's almost guaranteed that everyone else in your sphere is having a bad day, because they're feeding off that energy um you know so.
Speaker 4:But on the flip side, you know you can't go gary v and tony robbins, just follow your passions and you'll figure it out like that's fucking stupid too, because hey, we all got fucking bills right. Like I want to pet puppies for a living but I'm not. I'm not gonna go fucking make make money doing it. That's not paying for fucking travel baseball this summer, exactly. So I think you have to find that balance of, hey, you got to live real life and have a job, but also have that 20 minutes or half hour a week. That's all it really takes of that passion project, because even if you have a little bit of time, it just changes your fucking life because you have something to look forward to.
Speaker 3:Something to do, something to look forward to, and you're growing.
Speaker 4:Right, you're not just like 45 and fucking working 9 to 5 and just being miserable.
Speaker 3:Get up, go to work, come home, Go home, get up, go to work. And I tell people.
Speaker 4:When I was married, like I was fortunate. We had a big house, my ex-wife had a great job, we were making money, but that's all I had. I got home I was trying to outwork my wife. She's trying to outwork me.
Speaker 3:Well, that's a healthy competition.
Speaker 4:No, it's not. It wasn't for me, because I think we got caught up in our professional lives and then you're defined by that.
Speaker 1:You didn't have that why.
Speaker 4:So you have a son, you guys have kids, whatever, but I didn't have that. So now that I have a stepson, my why is different. Before I was just like hey, I got to keep up with the fucking Joneses, but now I don't mind working so much because I got my why and that's my kid and my family. So you got to find that balance. I think, especially as parents, you want to be able to provide, but providing is not just financially. It's because you could ask, like I wish my parents had more time to spend with me, but they were both working multiple jobs, right.
Speaker 3:And that's where we learned from.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and it is. And you have to as a parent, you have to get out of that mentality of, well, if I provide, like you say, like a husband or a wife, whoever's making the money is like, well, I provide, that's all I need to do. You could ask the other person. I'd rather have the time over the money any day of the week and my wife is a I'm a stuff person, so I like giving stuff, I like giving gifts. My wife is a experience person.
Speaker 3:Hi, my name is.
Speaker 4:Ditto Right, like hey, I got this cool thing. I Like, hey, I got this cool thing, I got this watch. Or I got a Nintendo 64. I got this stuff right and my wife's like I'm about experiences.
Speaker 2:Right, she doesn't care about the stuff, correct?
Speaker 3:One little example is I just set up that 64 out in my living room. I got the little converter to put it on the new TVs and I was all excited. My son was supposed to leave today with his mother at 2. And we had you coming in for the show and everything and he's still here, I'm like oh crap, he's here Now. I've got to pretend like. I don't know, yeah, where. This is like the last thing you want to do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you've got to put it all together.
Speaker 4:And that's why I was in there yelling yeah, no, even in that small window. I can guarantee you your kid notices hey, you spent an extra three hours with me. They might not say it, but they notice those things.
Speaker 3:That's what they notice the most.
Speaker 4:Like a thousand percent like that, like three hours hey, I got to kick it with Dad play Nintendo 64 and all this stuff, and then in his head he's like damn, like he spent time with me, but he's also doing well, and that's what.
Speaker 3:I'm trying to instill in him is the work ethic you go and do it. I picked this up just because at a certain point in time I didn't have anything, so I had to do something to keep from going crazy and you find something you're passionate about that was it yeah?
Speaker 4:You know, and I think with kids nowadays there's so much instantaneous shit on the internet Like they think it's like this.
Speaker 3:Let me ask you a question. Yes, how do you teach patients?
Speaker 4:Um, I, um, I will. I will say so. I came into my stepson's life when he's 12 and he's he's like 17, going on 65. Um, but he is getting to that age now where it's well, this happened that quickly. Um, you know, colleges aren't looking at me Like. I think they they don't understand the time it took to get to where you need to be at Um.
Speaker 4:But I think that's just leading by example and that's my biggest problem is I'm not a very patient person. Um, I'm going a hundred miles an hour, like, and I have to constantly remind myself I have eyes on me. Now, um, and really take a step back, and I think what I tell myself and what I tell him is time is your biggest commodity now. It's not the money you make, it's your time. So we had, and it's how you spend it. Yeah, right, like, but I also, so I kind of got in an argument with my wife. So he didn't get a job this summer and his mom and dad were. He didn't get a job this summer and his mom and dad were on him about getting a job. He ended up starting like a quarterback camp for the youth. He did that for four weeks, but and frankly I don't know why they were bitching, because he just uses my credit card anyway.
Speaker 2:But he actually started a camp.
Speaker 4:He did so he did it on his own. He's very much like his mom, so he did it on his own. He's very much like his mom. His mom is very entrepreneurial. She has a full-time job, has her own business. She's always doing that stuff. But I had told his mom I was like, let him be a kid. He's been on the grind ever since I knew him, between baseball, football all summer, and this is the summer where he got to golf, go fishing. He's like I've had the greatest summer he's had friends over. Because he's breathing, I'm like and you have time to do all that but enjoy life.
Speaker 3:Is it me or am I seeing this wrong? Or are parents being over impulsive with sports?
Speaker 4:They, oh for sure. So I help coaches. Aau team like two summers ago for baseball, and I mean one, that whole AAU racket. It's a fucking racket. You don't got to be good at sports anymore to play these travel teams.
Speaker 3:Don't get me started.
Speaker 4:Um but.
Speaker 3:I just fought my entire family over it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, Like, like, and I will tell you the it's a business. Parents have to understand that. Parents have to take a step back and realize it's not you playing, it's your child. You're living through your kid. I think and have realistic expectations and I get it. Every parent thinks your kid's the best and if you don't think that then you're an asshole, because parents should think that. But from a sports perspective, I could tell you I had a parent that was like my kid's not playing and I paid $4,000 for this team and I'm like well, you paid $4,000 for him to have friends, Right, Like, you know that, I know that. You know he can't play baseball.
Speaker 3:No, you paid $4,000 for you to have friends.
Speaker 4:No, but even if it's fine if you know your kid stinks at a sport, but you want him to do something over the summer, right, like a million things to do.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but if you got the money, you want them to travel around and be on a baseball team, I'm cool with it. Like I'm cool, be on the team. But like I don't want to hear about the playing time, right, like I just don't want to hear about it. Cause one real, like I've done enough. Travel ball where we're not down south and your kid is not going fucking pro. Okay, um, and it's infuriating, um, but I it just.
Speaker 4:I think baseball parents, out of all travel sports, maybe soccer's worse, but I never got into soccer, but baseball parents, they're all fucking crazy. Like you, you're all, you're all, everyone's, everyone's the next big thing, yes, um, you know, I think football parents are a little more realistic, um, and you don't get that travel aspect with the football as much. They started doing the seven on seven stuff. Yeah, um, which I went to a big tournament down South. They had like 220 teams and those kids are legit. But, yeah, but for me, being an outsider, like I'm walking into all of it too. You gotta remember I didn't have a kid. So, like you, missed the up until 12.
Speaker 3:I did so when I came in, like I did come in and I had that overzealous fucking dude, though like I'm like, you missed the part where they're all friends, and here's the part where they're all like competition and I'm better than them.
Speaker 2:And why are they getting that time?
Speaker 4:and, oh my god, like I came in and like no one knew me and I came in like, well, fuck it, like I got a couple bucks. Yo, he's getting the baseball bats, the cleats. I'm not even asking his dad. I thought his dad was gonna fucking kill me, like you, you know, uh. But it's like I was so crazy that we were in a tournament in new york and the kids are like yo, we want to be on the first base back because I'm a fucking maniac bro, like I. Don. I don't got to abide by parent rules. I didn't sign any slips. This is what the fuck I want, right?
Speaker 4:So so I get wind from the head coach, great guy, lance Stevens, and he's a super laid back Cali guy Like fucking just super chill and I'm everything opposite than that I get winched, he's like well he has to fucking try out. I'm like, fucking try out. Know who the fuck I am? I'm like cool, I went to Dixon New York. I came out I had like a fucking knickers on N-I-C-K-E-R-S. Okay, I'm just clearing that up right now chains oh my god, and I'm like yo coach and he's gonna say no, first base coach oh, I didn't have to try.
Speaker 4:He's not gonna say no, what am I gonna sit in the crowd looking like a fucking baby and um. But like I was out, like I didn't know the balance when I came in, like so did you know?
Speaker 2:did you not realize at that point the balance was probably a little off as well?
Speaker 4:no, because like I can't ball into shit like, so like if I'm doing it%.
Speaker 3:Go hard or go home.
Speaker 4:Yeah. So I got him a quarterback coach. He's a quarterback, so I remember I would show up and I got fucking man tights on, I got receiver gloves and I'm out here running routes and first of all in my head I'm like yo, I'm so fucking athletic. Then I'm like look at the man who is the fucking fat, chubby dude who's running. Like with one leg I broke four fingers Like fucking tore up a knee Like I didn't even give a shit. I was crazy and all the parents were like it was so bad, like the dad was videotaping me running around with a gun.
Speaker 3:Oh no, what is? He trying to do send him through a college.
Speaker 4:Yeah, like I, dads like knew I was an amateur dad. They're like fucking rookie Look at this overzealous douchebag. But yeah, I definitely think that parents live through the kids and I think parents need to ease up on that. And you know, these parents are like it's too much social media. Me and my wife get an argument about that all the time, like too much Snapchat. But I'm like this is the way they communicate now, like they don't need to adjust to the way we did things.
Speaker 3:We need to adjust to them, adjust to the way they do them Correct, because that's where we are now.
Speaker 4:Yes, and it's very different, and it's okay. I think there are some of the other things, though, like I remember, one day he was like man, I door fucking opens up bro, it's not a, the bike's in the garage. But to his point he's like that's cool. But look at the neighborhood and there's no more neighborhoods.
Speaker 2:I'm actually lucky. I live in a nice little neighborhood and all the kids go outside and play.
Speaker 3:But we've talked about that before I did, but then I suffered the same affliction.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I did too. I out of my cool cul-de-sac and now my old people cul-de-sac, um, but like, like I remember, like I mean, even growing up in bristol, like now you're not going to send your kid out there to run around the west end or, you know, union street or the hill or wherever I mean, I don't know that I ever would have gone out onto union street.
Speaker 4:I did, I, I did really I did a lot, um, but like my parents like just get home, right, like. But like you knew the other parents down the street, right, yeah, we all kind of raised each other and you don't have that now, I think. I mean, I do a lot of criminal work and I always tell people the hood becomes a neighborhood after something bad happens, but other than that these kids just don't go outside and be like, hey, I'm going to meet up with Johnny and go ride bikes and shit, like they don't.
Speaker 3:And you used to know where everybody was because of the pile of bikes in the front yard.
Speaker 4:Like a thousand percent. Now you know where everybody is because of the Snapchat shit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but I also think like and the GPS track, or whatever.
Speaker 4:Yeah, or like the Life 360, which I think is fucking weird.
Speaker 3:I, I'm like, why do?
Speaker 4:you do that like one. Why do you want to know where your kid's at all the time? Because, like, if you have that type of kid, then you got some parenting issues you have parenting issues.
Speaker 3:Thank you, if you don't trust your kid and you gotta be on life 360 I don't have life 360.
Speaker 2:That's on you yeah, like.
Speaker 4:So my wife will track the kid's cell phone cause he doesn't and he's not going to listen to this, so I can say that. But I remember like I'd be in the fucking shower room. She's like, oh my God, he's dead. And I'm like what do you mean? He's at the stoplight too long and I'm like motherfucker. I'm like hang on. I'm like yo, bro, call your mom right now. Yo, I'm going to fucking kill somebody, like you know, and with him about. But I think the the big drawback from all that is their ability to communicate, like just carry a conversation.
Speaker 4:it's hard, you know they're especially like the covid kids who like that eighth grade to ninth transition, which is it was really weird yeah um, and he's just coming out of it, but like he's, he doesn't like going to malls, like big crowds, like shows or stuff like that, like he would always. You know, every once in a while he comes to work with me and he's like Ma Vin just doesn't stop talking to everybody, like he's either on the phone or I'm like but I'm like that's how I get business, how I navigate, that's how I grow as a person. You have conversations, you have conversations and I'm like listen, dude, you know to get information or get to the next spot without having to interact with anybody, but at some point you're going to come up with life like yo, dude, you got to. There's a real person on the other end of the shit. You got to figure it out.
Speaker 4:And life is hard Dude for sure.
Speaker 3:Life is hard and you're sitting in a room talking to everybody behind a keyboard. Yeah, you don't even know what life is like yet you don't Like he would.
Speaker 4:I just he had said something and I'm like what adult shit do you do? Like, what adult stuff do you do? And you shouldn't Like, you shouldn't know how hard life is. Yet Like I remember when I was a remember when I was someone who didn't have a kid. We were dinks, double income, no kids. I'd be like yo, fuck that shit, my kid's going to work. If I ever had a kid, yo I'm stalling out here, bro, he ain't doing shit. I want him to have. But I will say if he wasn't so humble and grateful for it, it'd be a different story.
Speaker 3:It's a huge point. Yeah, completely different story. Yeah, some kids just think they're entitled to it. Well, and it's Mine does. Yeah, and I have to slap not physically, but I kind of slap him in the face with reality every once in a while. I'm like no, that's not how this works.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you have to let them know. I mean, I will tell you like my stepson knows a buck stops with me. Like you fuck around, you find out. Yeah, like, oh, you got a C on a quiz when you're a National Honor Society student. That means you fucked around. I don't get to give a C effort on Tuesday because I didn't feel like it. I was like do it again, Exactly Like. All of this shit'll be like you know what you're right, right, like. So my wife gets mad because she says I spoil him and my wife is. My wife can be happy and homeless. She'd go live in a fucking tent and just be. Oh, my god, life is great. Right, my wife is an angel that's a wonderful human being it is, but no, no, like for sure.
Speaker 4:But we get in big arguments like, oh, he doesn't need this, he doesn't they go, he doesn't need this, he doesn't need that. I know he doesn't need it, but I want to do it right, like I want to do it for him and he's not taking it for granted. So it's trying to find that balance of, you know, being a parent, being respectful, but also letting your kid breathe and be a kid.
Speaker 2:That's the hardest part.
Speaker 3:It is Because you, your kid, breathe and be a kid, that's the hardest part.
Speaker 4:You want to let him be a kid, yeah and it's, it's. I think it's much more difficult when you have your own kid, like, like, for me, I have a bird's eye view. I love, love my stepson and I do like I think of him as my son, but the reality is I'm a step removed, so I have this helicopter view of everything that's going on and, given the fact that I also do a lot of divorce and custody work, I know how to find this balance. I knew my lane, um, like, like, honestly, like the biggest adjustment was for his dad. It wasn't an adjustment for me, right? Like I'm a dad's worst fucking nightmare. Like I'm, yeah, like, like, um, like, if you're like a dad that like you're not raising my fucking kid, type dad, like, yeah, I'm a problem and and it was, it was like, not a rough go, but like for like three years, and I remember we had a conversation.
Speaker 4:I'm and it was not a rough go, but for like three years and I remember we had a conversation. I'm like listen, it was at his baseball bank. I'm like, dude, I'm just riding your coattails bro, like you did all the hard shit, like I'm coming in like fun times and he's like I really appreciate. You said that You're doing all this for him and now, ever since then, we go golfing, like do whatever that's absolutely wonderful.
Speaker 4:Yeah, kid but and it's it's awesome that his dad did it like, because, like I said, I don't got any beef with the dad like we weren't married, like hey, it is what it is. But it got to a point like we went to like so my uh stepson had two concussions last year in football and so we had to take him to a neuro and mom couldn't get there, dad was working. I was like y'all, take the kid, I'll meet you there, whatever, I'll meet up with the dad. And so I go in and dad's like you know, like a long guy, like he manages this long. She's this big, fucking dirty dude like, looks like a man, right like, and I show up with like all black, like I just left the city with a diamond chains and jays on and like a fucking knitted hat.
Speaker 4:And we're looking in the waiting room, me and him make eye contact, and everyone in there was like yo, there's the bear and there's the cub, like whatever, whatever that fucking terms everyone uses. And, um, so we're walking down the hallway and the nurse was like hey, you know, you guys could wait out in the hallway. And the kid's like no, those are my two dads. And I'm like bro, bro, yeah, yeah, so the doctor comes in, boy, you know, the doctor comes in and he's you the doctor comes in and he's you know, he's skipping along.
Speaker 4:He's like, oh my God, my two dads. And I'm like no bro.
Speaker 2:Not meant that way.
Speaker 4:Yeah, or like we were at a football game and the kid scores a touchdown and like me and the dad are going fucking nuts, like, and he's hugging me and this guy's like giving me a jerk. I'm like yo grow up, bro. It's 2023, dude, it's perfectly normal about 10 years wrong like this but I think, like I think from a, a divorced parent aspects.
Speaker 4:I always tell people that it's not an 18 year bid, it's a lifelong bid and, um, you know? So you got two choices. It's either you could work this shit out and you don't have to like each other, but you could tolerate each other for the purposes of your kid, or it's going to be a fucking nightmare your entire life.
Speaker 4:Yeah exactly, and it's you know. You get the well. I can't believe you know this person did this. Well, you can. You're divorced, like you know what it's coming Like. You know what it's coming Like. None of this is a shot, right. But if your kid's happy and healthy and you guys parent different, it is what it is. But at the end of the day, the common goal is the best interest of the child. It's not you winning, and I think that's the frustrating thing in my job. As far as being a lawyer is, I'm very result focused and I'm very much. It's not winning. It's about especially with kids. It's about especially with kids. But like you see it, like even in sports, going back to travel baseball, you see the divorced parents and they're just like who's the best parent, who's a more supportive parent? And then you get the other ones that just don't fucking show up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, really yeah, I see.
Speaker 3:Like imagine, imagine like just not showing up to your kid's baseball game, Like maybe you have work once in a while, but like, yeah, like, maybe you have work once in a while, but like, but you at least explained to him before ahead of time you make every game you can. If you miss one or two, okay, that's life.
Speaker 4:That's life, but like it's or the other thing, though, too. This is what I don't understand about baseball parents, like high school baseball starts at like 3 o'clock and all these parents are there. I'm like don't you have fucking jobs?
Speaker 3:right half day to go.
Speaker 2:The middle school thing is the same thing.
Speaker 3:It's like my home must be nice.
Speaker 2:Like 3 o'clock. I told my daughter I was like dude plus Little League and travel. I said there's no way I'm making every single one of your games I'll make what I can, but there's just no way.
Speaker 4:It's tough. Like for me it's a little bit easier because I'm self-employed, but I still got shit. But like superwoman right, she's got a full-time job. She has her own business, running like a fitness classes out of our house four days a week. Like she was national trainer of the year for beach body way back in the day. Like p90x um, she trained all those people basically beach body. Thank gosh she got a beach body. Um, uh, yeah, I'm swinging way out of my straightide. So my wife is going to be 49 this year but she's aging like a mermaid.
Speaker 3:No, no, no 29.
Speaker 4:No, no, no see, I'm a cougar hunter, bro. I'm a fucking older the better dude. I like them almost dusty, proud of you. Yeah, dude, listen. I used to chase after my first grade teacher, my second year of first grade, miss Jones.
Speaker 3:That explains a lot. Right there, I'm not going to lie. Second year of first grade you want to hear another funny story. I still have a crush on my first grade teacher.
Speaker 4:You know, I was just talking about that with my guy on my podcast last week and I'm like I wonder what Miss Jones looks like. He's like bro, she's probably dead and I'm like I know, but back in the day, like you know, you're hot when your Ms. Jones. Yo, Ms Jones and Ms Al shout out if you're listening out there. I still love you, ladies.
Speaker 3:I love your boy.
Speaker 4:If you're at Ingram, manor or Bellevue Convalescent Home.
Speaker 3:Or if you can still hear.
Speaker 4:Yeah, definitely not.
Speaker 3:Or if you know how to use a computer or a phone.
Speaker 4:See my wife's lucky though, because I like old ladies, so I can't wait until she turns 50 next year. It's going to be a blowout isn't it?
Speaker 2:Let's not pretend that we're that much younger. No, no you are.
Speaker 4:I point it out all the time because, like when my wife was in high school graduating, I was in eighth grade. Like there's a fucking difference. She's a pervert. I am not going to comment.
Speaker 3:It's very hard to keep me speechless. Yeah, I'm going to stay away from that.
Speaker 4:Like, listen, she was scouting me out. She was scouting me out, but yeah, she's, it was funny. So when I had met my, I met my wife through a mutual friend. So I was going through my divorce and I'm at court and I'm a pretty put together guy, like you know not to toot my own horn, but I know what I'm doing. Yeah, buddy and, but I was fucking so disheveled going through my divorce I stopped taking business so I'd show up my head like all stubbly because I don't have any hair for people who can't see me. Obviously, no one can see me because we're not doing video, but I'm like crying.
Speaker 3:Just give it time. I just realized how to use microphones.
Speaker 4:Yeah, get a video bro it's right there. You're wasting all of our good looks and it's hot video.
Speaker 3:You're lucky because we're coming to the end.
Speaker 4:Oh, that's it. This is all we got. I could do this all day, dude. No shit, I'm sweating like I got a bomb strapped to my balls.
Speaker 3:I never asked you how long your podcasts are.
Speaker 4:I do an hour.
Speaker 3:We can go, I don't mind. I usually do 25 to 30 minutes.
Speaker 4:Bro, you got way too much talent to fucking cut yourself short bro, if I let it go all at once, the world will not be able to hold on. You got to save it. No, we can keep it short. We can keep it short.
Speaker 3:I'll go an hour if you want. I don't mind talking.
Speaker 2:It's really all I can do. Well, this is a setting Exactly. You guys talk pretty well.
Speaker 3:My only attribute a positive attribute is talking. A positive attribute is talking it's your show.
Speaker 4:It's your show. I'll just talk forever. I'll get all my stories out now. Then you'll never have me back again.
Speaker 2:So that's part of it, you can have him to yours.
Speaker 1:That's kind of what I was hoping to be honest. No without a doubt I got um.
Speaker 3:I'll stay there with you guys yeah, we'll do um, I'll figure it out over the next couple weeks.
Speaker 4:I got I did another podcast. I think you probably fit well with them. Uh, my buddy ian, he's in florida, his partner's in ireland, so when they do the show he wakes up at like 12 in the morning and he's fucking like irish. Irish, it's fucking hilarious. And he says cunt like 75 fucking times, oh my god um, and they do, they have a pretty cool um. I think it's called toxic masculinity um that's for me.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's a, it's good show, but they just start with always the question what is masculinity to you? And it starts the conversation.
Speaker 3:That's what I was kind of asking you earlier. It's like when you hit like 40 years old, somewhere up around there you notice changes and you're like fuck, it's gone, but nobody ever talks about it.
Speaker 2:It's a good one. Wait until you hear what he calls it.
Speaker 3:No, it's IMS. What is that? Irritable male syndrome Instead of PMS?
Speaker 2:Yes, it is.
Speaker 4:So I started doing TRT, so testosterone replacement therapy, like maybe eight, 12 weeks ago. I feel fantastic, but I'm like I got to do something Right and no one ever wants to talk about it. But I'm like dude. I.
Speaker 3:There are just times where I get into a mode where I just want to beat the absolute piss out of somebody, Like just where I just want to beat the absolute piss out of somebody.
Speaker 4:That's different. You've got some fucking anger issues.
Speaker 3:No, it's not anger. It's literally like you're shaking. You're so mad and everybody's in the wake, everybody's in a way, and you're irritable to people and you're mean and you're like why am I like this?
Speaker 4:What the hell do I do? But if you look at it that way, you're aware of it. Look at it that way, like you're aware of it. You just got to figure out how to flip it right.
Speaker 3:Like so, you got to figure out I figured that out, yeah, but I'm still trying to figure out why it happens.
Speaker 4:Well, that's that's. Oh, maybe you should sign up for some coaching, bro, I'll help you out. Okay, like, but I'm the same way. Do you have a coupon? First one's free buddy, I'm getting older first one's free dude. If you hit 50 I take aarp discounts that.
Speaker 3:That's how he gets you hooked.
Speaker 4:Yeah, first, one's free. First one's free, but no, I get it. And I think the problem is especially as men we don't talk about it.
Speaker 3:That's my point. That was my point about the whole thing. We don't talk, nobody talks. No man talks about this with another man.
Speaker 4:No, no one, and it's crazy because we similar right and if I'm not, I may know someone who is yeah and I, and I think it also helps us in our relationships with girlfriends, wives and whatnot, because then we have someone to talk with outside of our household, right, because I think as men, we're like we're still like cavemen. We're like we're supposed to be the strong providers. Yeah, like I remember when my I don't cry very much at all, I'm kind of a heartless individual. When it comes to shit like that, I'm very pragmatic. Someone died. Well, this is why they died, or they're old.
Speaker 3:Did you cry when you got divorced?
Speaker 4:Yeah, that was probably one of the four times in my life.
Speaker 3:It's really one of the only times I really cried and my ex-wife was like a fucking sniper.
Speaker 4:She's like, oh, stone cold, bro, a killer. She's staring at me like hey, we'll be friends and I'm like I've been a bitch. I had like my divorce playlist. I'd be sleeping in my guest bedroom hoping, hoping she hears my chris stapleton song I woke up.
Speaker 3:I woke up every morning listening to mash a theme song. Yeah, you know the name of that song no suicide is painless, dude.
Speaker 4:Yeah and I me some. I still love sad songs. Dude, I got this one.
Speaker 4:Now it's the saddest song ever, but I love it. But yeah. So I had speaking of not being able to be like a dude and like, fucking, share your feelings. So I remember my stepson. We were in the state championship game last year and he was killing it.
Speaker 4:The first four games of the season and gets knocked out, comes back, gets a team to the state championship. And when I tell you this guy is just such a fucking leader, like good kid, just the perfect human being, and his head coach he had thrown a bad interception. His head coach would scream ma'am, you didn't want to take a hit, you're scared, blah, blah, blah. So 20 seconds left before the half, he steps up in the pocket, throws a touchdown, gets fucking wailed in the head. So I see him on the sidelines and so mike and claudia, his dad and mom, were down talking to the fucking doctor and I just saw the doctor holding the helmet and I just saw him like I knew the conversation, I fucking lost it.
Speaker 4:Like I fucking like and I wasn't, wasn't. I wasn't upset because he was hurt, I was upset of all the work he put in and like his dream was to win a chip for the town. And so my wife comes up and I'm fucking crying. She's like get your shit together, you're the one who's supposed to hold this shit down. And I'm like. I was like fuck it, fuck your son. He's a bitch. I'm just kidding. I didn't say that, I just want to do it for effect.
Speaker 2:Oh, I was like whoa.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I've done that, but yeah, so I would agree with you like a thousand percent, you know, and I think also two females got to allow men to be that, be able to have that conversation with your wife or girlfriend and not just look at us fucking weird either.
Speaker 3:Wait. Yes, you know what I mean. It took me one second to put it all together.
Speaker 4:Yeah, to be comfortable with that, my wife is very much a talker, so she's like let's talk about her feelings.
Speaker 3:But even they don't understand it.
Speaker 4:Well, they can't, but you don't have to. This is what I tell people. I haven't had a fight with my wife ever and we've been together four and a half years now. We four and a half years now we've had disagreements, we have discussions, but the biggest thing, I think, is understanding the perspective and being like okay, I understand your perspective. I don't think you're right, but I understand your perspective and I think that is the technique for a successful couple. Um, and so this way we could be open about our feelings. You may not necessarily understand it or agree with it. You're like okay, that's the way you're feeling, right, right, it's not. Even if you don't understand why I'm feeling that way, just know, hey, I'm feeling this way and respect it.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:That's it, and that way you can move forward and not harbor things later on where you cycle back to it. Yeah.
Speaker 4:And I'm still learning to do that. My wife is very much, hey, something bothers her. She's having the conversation right now.
Speaker 3:Unfortunately, women are generally smarter than we are.
Speaker 4:Bro. Well, they can't even be president of the United States, yo PS. By the way, there's a bunch of female presidents in the world, so it's not a novel idea. Get over it, fucking people.
Speaker 3:For another day, because I'll go on a fucking rant. Try and stay away from politics and religion.
Speaker 4:No, I know, I I fucking talk about all of it, dude. I was a Mormon for two years. Holler at your boy.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Mind blown. Yeah, just two years. Yeah, I was trying to get in those blonde hair, blue eyed Betty's.
Speaker 1:I was like it was like a Like a pair of socks.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you could just change them.
Speaker 4:Is that what religion is, for real, bro? Yeah?
Speaker 3:Actually religion is and politics really is.
Speaker 4:I mean, you could be a Democrat your whole life, then become Republican and be president. It's fucking wild, you got a point. Yeah, you got a solid point, but yeah, I'll talk about all the good shit.
Speaker 3:I had a question for you. No, I forgot what it was because I have ADD it's probably because I threw out the Trump card.
Speaker 4:You know what I fucking I didn't just talk about, because it really bothers me too, is the people who wear fucking Trump t-shirts and then they get mad when people fucking pick on them. Thank you, like. I don't like. Hey, I don't like anyone that's really out there. I like old man Tim from Minnesota, because he's funny, he's wearing a flannel. Yeah, like, but like don't come out with like a fuck you Biden t-shirt or I love Trump, and then wonder why people are going to say shit to you Exactly.
Speaker 4:You're asking for people to talk to you about it Like you are like, regardless of what fucking side of the aisle you are, you're, you're going to get shit in to like it's fucking ridiculous that a game show host was the fucking president of our country, but that's yeah, some guy who walked around on tv was like you fired.
Speaker 2:And then that's who you voted for merry christmas motherfuckers.
Speaker 4:I don't want to hear about it, but like it's just, but like, like the fact, the the, the fact, the fact that this is the best we have to offer is insane.
Speaker 3:Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4:It's just, it's wild. But the people who like Trump people are the worst because they just brag about Trump and then they get mad when you say shit about Trump, exactly and I don't like. I'm a big believer, just don't be a douchebag and we would be all right in life, but like the fact that this is where we're at is insane. Like the fact this is how crazy our country is is that a president almost got assassinated and we moved on in two weeks Like bro.
Speaker 3:Don't even get me started on that one. I already have two episodes where it was all set up.
Speaker 4:What? No, no, yeah, set up whatever. Like yes, obviously dude. No one's getting iPod. Thank you, Looking like some dude from Goonies.
Speaker 1:Right Like like, like that kid couldn't get to my lunch table in high school Like he's not getting near a fucking president, right, like.
Speaker 4:But the fact that, like people are like, oh my god, I can't believe it happened, like, how can you not believe it happened? This guy incited a riot at the White House. Like he incites violence, you get what you have coming. And two, he's not a hero because he was just at a fucking rally. The guy who's a hero is who saved his fucking wife and kid from getting shot, and he died.
Speaker 3:And up until like two months ago, he's a felon.
Speaker 4:What I mean. He's still a felon and people haven't talked about the fact that felons can't have weapons. So legally, I don't even think he can be president, because he can be in charge of the military. So, in effect, and he's in charge of a nuclear weapon. So my client who got bagged for selling fucking weed can't go to Dick's and buy a pistol.
Speaker 3:But this dumb motherfucker was getting six felonies.
Speaker 4:He's like oh, check out my nuke, like it's fucking insane, like no one has.
Speaker 3:Thank you.
Speaker 4:I'm not even smart, like I'm not a smart person person. I don't watch politics, I don't give a. I watch it now because I want to know what's going on on the daily show, because that's where I get my fucking news, because john stewart's my hero, but it's great. It's insane. Like people don't even think about that. Like, like, think about it, it's insane. And then you get the harris people like she couldn't get one vote to get on the ticket four years ago, like, and now everyone's like yo, she's got 400 million.
Speaker 4:She, like, it's insane to me but like that's why no one wants this job anymore. No one, like none of the best people, want the job anymore.
Speaker 3:And that's exactly why we are where we are. Yeah, we're dead to morons.
Speaker 4:Like and for me, like, I just want a president who's a good salesperson, Because they're not doing much.
Speaker 3:That's why Clinton was good, because he was a talker.
Speaker 4:Go bring it back to Rowland. I love Rowland. I don't give a fuck if he got a free kitchen and a boat. He was making his goddamn money because people liked him. I want someone who's Ratchet in the office Like snake oil salesman in the office. Dude, I want you to sell me some pyramid scheme. That's what we need. We need some pyramid scheme president. So just go sell some shit and let, like a fucking nerds, run the country. Um, but it's, it's insane and it's like and I think it's hilarious because the trickle-down effect with the kids so all of a sudden, my stepson's like a trumper right, like I don't know where this fucking came from, it's probably just tiktok feed and so my wife's raging out the other day she's just like can you, can you believe this shit? Because she read Project 2025. And all of a sudden my wife's at rallies and he's like well you know Right next to Vincent Fosca.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so he gets all like. He's like, well, you know, no one fucks with us. When Trump was in office, I was like who exactly was fucking with us? Who's fucking with us? We do. He's like, well, biden had to take the troops out of afghanistan and I'm like, well, first of all, you have no idea what you're talking about. Second of all, why we were there. He's like I don't know. I was like that's what everyone said. So three, are they supposed to come out at some point? Like elegant and I don't get mad at him because he's a fucking kid, but like the whole fact that, like you get the weird trumpers, that no one fucks with trump. Like no one you could have fucking Snoopy in the office and no one's fucking with someone who's got a big red button.
Speaker 1:But you know what the funny thing is?
Speaker 4:People are like no one fucked with us when Trump was in the office. No, they did. We fucked with our own shit. We rioted our fucking Capitol, which is insane, and people are just like, hey, hey, hey, it happens.
Speaker 1:No, it doesn't. It does not happen it happens at Walmarts.
Speaker 4:Yes, like Walmarts and Targets get looted, like West Farms Mall, louis Vuitton go loot some shit, but like no one loots a fucking White House.
Speaker 3:Unless you're trying to get his hair.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and like imagine being like the vice president, right, Like what's wrong with JD Vance just lining up with this guy.
Speaker 4:Like you know, he let Pence out there like yo kill the motherfucker. He's crazy. And then you got Teddy Ruxpin out there now Looks like Trump's son in a movie. Like he could go play Trump's son in a movie. Like out here fucking couches like I don't even care if it's a rumor, but it's hilarious and that's why fucking Timmy from Minnesota is my hero, because he made the couch joke. He's like, hey, if you could get off the couch, you know.
Speaker 3:I'll be honest with you, I didn't even know Timmy from Minnesota was a real person. Yeah, I thought you were just saying that out loud.
Speaker 4:No, no, no, no, no, timmy but it's. I just you know a lot with me, but anyways, that was my fucking politics rant. You know we did a Got it out of you now. Yeah, I feel better now. It's like yeah, like it's, like it's like releasing, like a big fart.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's just like ha ha, ha it is.
Speaker 4:We did one my, so my, my partner, joe. He's pretty inappropriate at times and we did this one just before Christmas. No, just before Easter. He went on this fucking crazy Jesus rant and it's like top five things that's fake about religion. Jesus is Jewish. We never aired it. Oh, I nixed it because we were just starting. I'm trying to get followers. I'm like bro, I can't come out here and make fun of Jesus. Now I can because I'm a celebrity, but it was fucking wild.
Speaker 3:I did one of those in the beginning, yeah, and I had an old baseball coach of mine on and I'm like this is wildly inappropriate for a podcast to just start now. It was rough. And I got the one guy that was supporting us. He was like you can't have that.
Speaker 4:I don't want to be associated with it. Like, if you think about it, I love fucking zealous religious people Because they fucking it's my favorite thing in the world Right behind Trumpers, and it's just like they're so crazy about it, right, and this is what I don't understand. Like go ahead.
Speaker 3:No, I'm going to tie two things into one your profession and religion. Go Ooh, ooh Ooh.
Speaker 4:Ooh, Um, I mean, I really I can't be me personally. I can't go and be like a church going person and be a good criminal attorney, because that shit don't jive Like it doesn't. But people always ask like is I'll represent? Like rapers, kid diddlers, fucking, all of it and one. It's not my job to judge people.
Speaker 3:It doesn't matter if it's your job or not. Everybody judges everyone.
Speaker 4:What? No, because I separate it out from like, hey, it's my job, they're not my friends, I'm not hanging out with them, so I'm able to do it that way, and it's not for everybody. I mean, I, I will tell you it was, it's challenging to leave it at the office, but, yeah, no, I'm not gonna come out and you know, do this and then be like pes. By the way, on sunday when you go to church, everything's forgiven, like it's fucking wild. And then the worst part is is like you can't have conversations with people. There's a million religions out there and whatever's right for you is right for you, right, but it's not's not the truth. No, it's not. Because they say, hey, what's your faith? Okay, that's your faith. So you don't know the truth, because if you knew it was true, you'd need no faith. Like, if you think about it, like, faith isn't the opposite of truth and if it works for you, cool, it's not the opposite of truth.
Speaker 4:It's a blindfold to to the truth. Like, yeah, I like that you're hoping for the truth. Yeah, yeah, like it. Like, yes, and and it's. And. If that guides you to be a good person, I am down with it no matter what you worship a fucking frog.
Speaker 4:I don't care, just don't be a tree, but like a metal post, whatever, like, but like the the just judging. Like everybody, I'm a big, I mean, listen, I'll poke fun on that. Everybody, I don't give a fuck, you all get it, everybody gets it like, even on that, everybody, I don't give a fuck, y'all get it, everybody gets it Like, even across the board. But like I don't care what you're doing in your personal life If it's not affecting me and my seven walnut tree road holler at me If you want to send me a car, that's my answer. Oh, wow, okay, yep, live there. I got two. Don't try to rob my ass, dare you.
Speaker 4:Everyone just stayed in their lane and worried about what they were doing Because we got our own shit to deal with. If nobody worried, period, you've got to worry. Worry about your shit. If you took care of your house, then your life is good, no matter what's going on in the outside world down the sidewalk. I'm good in my house, like I know when I go home, I'm good in my house. So I don't care what you're doing in your yard, your sidewalk, across the street.
Speaker 4:Just don't let your dog poop on my lawn, oh no, no, we have one of those in the neighborhood too. Poops everywhere, poops everywhere. But like it's just. I wish people could have more of that perspective of it, because people are like, do you believe all this shit's happening in government? Like I don't care, like I really don't, like I'm gonna go home at the end of the day, what does it really do to you?
Speaker 3:nothing it's like inflation, what not?
Speaker 4:but that's everyone, but it's everyone, and you're not going to stop it and you adjust Like you pivot. Life is about pivoting.
Speaker 3:What does it really matter who is president?
Speaker 4:No, I mean, I think it does. If it's inciting hate, Well, that's the. I mean. Theoretically, you could put anyone in there. As far as policies and whatnot. If you know how government runs, the president's really not doing too much.
Speaker 3:Doing anything.
Speaker 4:Right, but I think it's the. What I get worried about is you're legitimizing crazy fucking people. Fair enough.
Speaker 3:Like another Hitler.
Speaker 4:Like there's never been a time in history where people would come out and say fuck the president and put a flag in their front yard. Like, regardless of how you feel about the president, the fact that you have like you're out here and it's not fuck the president, the fact that you have like you're out here and it's not fuck the president, you're basically saying fuck this government in our country. That's the way I look at it, because this is a system, the system you vote, this is what happens. You gotta roll with it and respect the system.
Speaker 3:I think we're in the middle of another civil war. Right now it's a digital civil war, but it's happening and it's starting.
Speaker 4:I mean, I think it's always. I don't know if it's happening.
Speaker 3:There is a rift between everything.
Speaker 4:Well, I think there's always been a rift. I think we just I think we see it every day. Now, I don't think it's more, I think it's just we see it every day and it's much more in our face.
Speaker 3:The misinformation on the internet is really dividing everything.
Speaker 4:But I think everywhere there's misinformation.
Speaker 3:Two questions. Do you know what MKUltra is? Nope. Do you know what WM3 is? No. West Memphis 3? No, okay, well then it's not going to be any kind of pertinence to ask you.
Speaker 4:I'm sorry, we'll Google for that. When I tell you I don't watch the news.
Speaker 2:No, they're older, it's not new stuff.
Speaker 3:Well, WM3 was in 1993.
Speaker 1:Oh dude, yeah, forget about it, I didn't know, if he came across as like a case reference or anything like that.
Speaker 3:No, and W MK Ultra was in 69.
Speaker 2:It was a government. It was like a government giving LSD to people, charles.
Speaker 3:Manson was friends with the Grateful Dead.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:It was mind control. Yeah, it doesn't surprise me.
Speaker 2:Oh TVs.
Speaker 3:TVs, internet, all that stuff. That's what it is now.
Speaker 4:Well, but I think the dangerous part now is it's not just government, it's everybody having control. Like you don't know who's putting all this information out here.
Speaker 3:That's what I mean.
Speaker 4:Like, like. So I think for me, like I'm not going to go vet, things and like, and I and I don't have time for it, he's a fucking moron.
Speaker 3:Elon Musk tried to buy was pissed at Twitter, yeah. So he was like fuck you, I'll buy you. Yeah, I know Right, and I just watched Portnoy and Rogan go over this and he went and then he wanted to see everything that, all the records of what they had. They were lying about everything. Everything was a bot.
Speaker 4:Well, he, you know what's crazy about Eli. He gets like it's, like it's everything fake. He believes, dude, it's fun. There's nothing more infuriating than elon musk, who's just a fucking idiot who struck gold somehow, like somehow, and people like he's a genius. No, people work for a man of the geniuses. But like anything come on out of x has a slant. If you're acting like, this is just a public forum for you to spread your opinion. There's no forum out there that does that.
Speaker 3:The problem is the bots from Twitter. 80% of Twitter was fake, of course. So how come there's no control over that? No regulation, no anything.
Speaker 4:Because the parties that control that stuff use it to their advantage. That's just how human nature is. When I'm meeting with a client, I'm believing 25, 30% of what they're telling me.
Speaker 3:Oh, absolutely. They're telling their version of the truth.
Speaker 4:And it's true for them and I understand that, like when we're and everyone does it everywhere no one's out here speaking you know the 100% truth. They're speaking their truth, right. So if you know that, going in, you get to control what you're intaking and and that's it's the whole thing with olympics and the fucking female boxer, everyone like it's like, oh my god, she's a dude, flies out the fucking window. Oh my god, and come to find out she's not a dude, she has this condition. But imagine her now, right, like she's. Like I got all these fucking dude hormones, but I'm really a chick. People thought I was grabbing my dick in the ring, but I wasn't. I was just itching my crotch, right.
Speaker 3:Like you didn't see that video. Still kind of gross.
Speaker 4:Well, I mean, it's not because you say it's gross, but like dudes, I mean we grab our dick all the time.
Speaker 3:I do.
Speaker 4:I'm just making sure, so my nuts are small. It's a bad side effect, but it also never mind. We're not going into that today, but I think that's a prime example of how fast shit goes and people don't vet anything. They don't, they don't vet, and that's the mind control, yeah.
Speaker 3:All you have to do is put something out front, and that's what's going to stick.
Speaker 4:Like a thousand percent. But I think on the flip side, it's not our, it's our responsibility to regulate what we're intaking, but we're not taught that. Yeah, but people should know. Now. Right, you should talk about it. I don't. There's a reason why I don't watch the fucking news. I'm probably the most least educated person, but I know a lot of shit.
Speaker 3:You and I would get along great.
Speaker 4:Yeah, like, like, like, I don't like I know what works for me and I'm sticking with that, and if I can help people out, I will, but I'm not. I'm not watching the news because you believe that shit? No, I don't believe what CNN is saying. I don't believe what Fox is saying. I don't believe what's going on over there, because it's hilarious.
Speaker 3:But now you're just like anybody that watches CNN or that watches Fox, Right?
Speaker 4:Yeah, but I don't walk out of my house and be like this is a fact. Fair enough, I don't know if it's a fact unless I can verify it. Personally myself. I have no fucking idea. Like I didn't say shit to stir the pot. But don't be an asshole and you're gonna be fine in life like that's. That's my. That's how we end with. Don't be a dick every time.
Speaker 3:Actually, I wanted to end with WM3. I'm gonna tell you what it's about. Look it up. The reason I was trying to mesh religion in your.
Speaker 4:Are you using a pencil, by the way?
Speaker 2:yeah, oh, I he's construction.
Speaker 3:I'm in construction so I have fences A long time, softball and construction.
Speaker 4:You are a fucking manly man.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm the guy you do have beaded bracelets On those You're throwing me off A little bit. It's kind of fucking weird. Hey, I never would have guessed you were an attorney. I hope not, bro. Don't tell people that Well you just did, oh yeah.
Speaker 3:Never mind, I wouldn't have said it it's fake news, yeah this is cnn or fox, I forget, uh but wm3 was three eight-year-old kids were killed in west memphis, arkansas. They were killed by who was supposedly three 18 year old kids I know an 18 year old, 17 year old, 16 year old anyway. It was a whole town, town like 3 500 people and it was just swamped with religion and it was like the way everybody came around. It was two adults that.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry, did it they did it, yeah, and they shrouded themselves in the religion to get out of it and blame it on these three kids. They didn't do anything.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Take a look at it. You don't know if they did it or not.
Speaker 3:Oh I know they did, they didn't get off.
Speaker 2:Actually years later they were.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they're not killing him, they're in jail.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so it's not these guys yeah, I think it's, I think. But you got to find the balance of what's what's your truth and I think if you do that, you're fine. I think you know. Then you get the other side where everyone has a conspiracy theory. I think it's, I think everyone is.
Speaker 4:I got that Like and I had like my client today I was dealing with a custody case he's very much that he doesn't trust anything and I think that's a difficult way to live life either. I think for me it's hey, I know what's going to work for me, what's good for me, and that's how I control the information as much as I can, especially with just outside my world. I tell people I protect my happiness, I protect my world, that's it. My peace, that's my biggest thing in my life. My money now buys me peace. I just want peace when I get home. So any of the outside noise I could turn down the volume, because the only thing I'm worried about controlling is my house, my little globe in the world, and then doing this shit and sharing this shit.
Speaker 3:This was a fucking blast bro, I'm not gonna lie, I was a little nervous and I'm like what are we gonna talk about? But this was pretty free-form. I could sit here and talk to you about anything you want, at any point in time I'll just gab no plan and it totally worked.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I had a plan.
Speaker 3:I've said that forever. I don't plan for anything. Really yeah, and it just goes yeah.
Speaker 4:I'm find, like, sometimes it's like for like, when I'm doing my podcast, sometimes we have some type of structure. I'll do a quick outline. These are the things I want to hit on, and then other times we just riff, and often the times when you riff it's the best thing. But I think, even if, like we were doing this today, but I think we had pretty constant theme throughout it, so like I think it was, I think it, you know, I think I mean I loved it, I think I think we did well.
Speaker 3:But this is what a podcast is supposed to be about. Yeah, you just get on there, you start talking about stuff, stuff that's important, stuff that means something.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and maybe put a fan in the fucking room. Bro, it is Like I'm going to come in here with no fucking pants.
Speaker 3:I literally told you that coming in here and I said to you I sweat as much as you do.
Speaker 4:It's so bad in here guys.
Speaker 3:It's only 78 degrees in here.
Speaker 4:Dude, my wife would love it.
Speaker 3:I almost divorced my wife.
Speaker 4:I've never wanted to hit a woman so hard in my life. But I came home one night and my house was 78.
Speaker 3:We do not condone that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I didn't do it, dude. I'm just saying we don't condone it. I just said I wanted to because I left the house. I was so mad. It was so because my wife can live on the fucking sun. Dude, you watch, we'll walk right through that door. Oh, it's like a it's yeah, dude, it can't be. It can't be, it can't be. It can't be. Fucking cold enough. Hold on. I got some attorney. You know, client of mine just had an fbi execute search warrant business. Yo, you fucked. Ah yo been about to get paid bitches. Yo fuck this. I'm going on the big time podcast now.
Speaker 4:Yo yeah oh boy, if you get arrested tonight, holler at your boy 860-680-5731. That's the plug. That's my silly Text me, hit me up, dm me. Do not send me dick pics or titty pics. Either one.
Speaker 3:I can't have either one of those on my phone. I'm a dick pic.
Speaker 4:God damn yo.
Speaker 3:I'm a dick pic.
Speaker 4:I'll tell you about my favorite divorce case, then we'll leave. So I had a client. I feel so bad about this. So girl was a super young girl that married a couple years. Husband was like a celebrity chef, right. Like fucking looked like a dude's dude. Like I'd fucking hang out with that guy. He was fucking drinking whiskeys. Fucking. This dude was slamming sausages, bro, right. So like hey, whatever you want to do, I'm cool with Like go plug a hole, I don't care, bro. Like frankly, I wish everyone was gay but me, because then I'd get all the chicks in the world. I'd fucking crush life. Everyone would be gay but me right, so I love gay people.
Speaker 3:You have some pig men running around.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I love gay people, right, like you know doing. But this dude, she finds a thousand dick pics in his phone, not like his dick, like a thousand rando dick pics. So I got to do a depo and I'm like they didn't know I had the pics. I'm like yo, who's that? And I was pointing to the dick pics are you serious?
Speaker 2:yeah, he's like what I was like who's that?
Speaker 4:that's not your dick. Oh dude. It was a great time the attorney was having a fucking stroke and I had him printed out as staples in color. Sorry, Stop yeah, dude. So listen, Like you know, if you're married and you're cheating, just delete the fucking pictures. Well, one, don't cheat, Like, just fucking leave. It's the most annoying thing in the fucking world. And two, if you are, just delete the pics, bro, that's all I ask. Like it's just because people are fucking crazy, dude People are crazy.
Speaker 4:Like it's just like divorces are like they're all fucking the funniest stories ever. But that'll be for another day because I'm sweating.
Speaker 3:Yes, we're out of here.
Speaker 4:It's fucking gross, we are out of here.
Speaker 3:Thank you for coming in. No, this was great. I hope you come back and do it again, because this was a great time.
Speaker 4:We're going to have you on our show. This is going to be a.
Speaker 3:That would be great. I would love to. If you want me on, let's.
Speaker 4:No, no, we're going to.
Speaker 3:I won't be invited.
Speaker 2:Next time we got to get her a little more involved, it's okay. I knew the two of you would take over the conversation that was kind of the other thing.
Speaker 4:Well, we are pretty awesome, though, Like I mean Pretty.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean we are. You're both kind of talkers.
Speaker 3:I'm completely awesome.
Speaker 4:I tell everybody that all the time I am a legend.
Speaker 3:I can see it. I can see it.
Speaker 4:It is. It's tough being me. It's my cross. I bear me, and Jesus, by the way. Oh my God, you know what I'm at?
Speaker 3:no.
Speaker 4:Vin just compared himself to Jesus. Have a good night everybody.
Speaker 3:Take care we're going to come to the end of this episode now. Check in, look at us next week. I don't even know what the hell we're going to be doing at this point, but thanks for joining us and, as always, be good Saki to me.
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