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The Deadpool-Wolverine Showdown
What happens when the irreverent Deadpool faces off against the relentless Wolverine? In the latest episode of Sockeytome, we unpack this epic showdown, spotlighting the comedic brilliance of Ryan Reynolds. Join us as we celebrate the film's astounding $438 million global opening weekend—a record-breaking feat for an R-rated movie. Discover how Reynolds' knack for breaking the fourth wall brings a refreshing humor to the film while Disney's unexpected plunge into mature content marks a bold shift in their traditional family-friendly image.
The casting buzz doesn't stop there. We dive into the surprising decision to cast Robert Downey Jr. as Victor Von Doom, sparking a whirlwind of fan reactions. How does this move reshape the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and what does it mean for characters juggling multiple roles like Josh Brolin's Thanos and Cable? From Disney's expanding Marvel roster to Deadpool's unique anti-hero charm, we analyze whether these ambitious choices will breathe new life into the MCU or leave fans scratching their heads.
And for those who can't get enough of the Merc with a Mouth, we trace the origins of the Deadpool franchise, reminisce about Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman's hilarious Hot Ones episode, and spill some juicy casting rumors about Lady Deadpool and Kiddie Deadpool. Plus, hear a personal tale about the joys and challenges of introducing Deadpool 2 to younger audiences. We wrap it up with heartfelt thanks and a call for your feedback and interaction—let’s continue making this podcast a blast for everyone!
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Hey everybody, welcome to Saki Toobi. What happens when the Merc with the Mouth meets a clawed-having, cigar-chomping, mutant, chaos? Comedy and an epic showdown. That's what. Welcome to today's episode where we dissect the ultimate face-off Deadpool vs Wolverine and the movie's success so far. Hey everybody, it's Ditto, we're back. I'm back here with Kat Hi hi, aka T-Bot. We just went over the weekend to see Deadpool vs Wolverine. Yeah, the mascots all over you right now. It's all right, mads, you've got to sit and relax, girl, you've got to sit and relax. Okay, sweet, good girl. All right, all right.
Speaker 2:Get into it. Yes, we did only part. We agree on yeah.
Speaker 1:But I love it too. I just love Deadpool, I love Ryan.
Speaker 2:Reynolds. I love Ryan Reynolds, I do.
Speaker 1:And it's about time that those two got together, because and we'll get into it in a few minutes but there's a whole joke behind it. It's hilarious and when we get into it you're going to understand. Oh yeah, they were great movies they were. They cleared $438 million globally this weekend, opening weekend. That is insane. Highest rated, r-rated movie ever globally Wow, highest earning Okay, okay, it was funny.
Speaker 2:It was. I laughed and I loved it. And Ryan Reynolds has this way about him that he could just. His humor is unprecedented. I'm telling you he has a way about him that's just everyone loves him.
Speaker 1:The fourth wall, which we'll get into it a little bit too, is what he does the best. Yeah, he is legit the best at breaking down that fourth wall. He's got a funny sense of humor where he just turns and he says things that are real and honest and funny. It's great yeah.
Speaker 2:And he's done it in almost every movie he has.
Speaker 1:It's like one of his trademarks, I think it is.
Speaker 2:I think it is.
Speaker 1:We're not here to talk about Ryan Reynolds. No, we're not. We're here to talk about Deadpool versus Wolverine and the way they did it and how, and its success Okay, how successful it's been so far. And at this, $433 million internationally Wow. $205 domestically Highest R-rated movie of all time and they expected it to make about $160 to $180.
Speaker 2:It blew those doors in. Yeah, no kidding, and it's going to happen too. It's going to happen $438 million. They've been hyping this movie up for months.
Speaker 1:It could be the first R-rated movie to hit the billion-dollar mark. Fact check that was stupid. In 2019, the Joker the movie hit 1.7 billion 1.07.
Speaker 2:And Disney has it. Disney never does R-rated movies.
Speaker 1:Well, I was going to say that for a little later also, but Disney never has R-rated movies. This is its first R-rated movie that it has released ever, but they bought it from 20th Century Fox, which is why you always saw the 20th Century Fox signs in the dirt without spoiling anything. Don't spoil anything. There's so much humor in it. There's just quick jabs at everything all over the place In every Deadpool movie. Yes, everything, every single one. This is Disney's first one. Disney is rebranding. I agree, they are rebranding, yep, and they're using Deadpool and Marvel to do it.
Speaker 2:Yep, well, marvel is everywhere too, so that's a great, great thing to do.
Speaker 1:Marvel is the first series that has gone on to hit the $30 billion mark. Wow, 34 movies in 15 years, about six of which may have been Disney, and that's why they called it the slump.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 1:The post-COVID slump is what they call it for. Marvel Didn't do so well that was. Disney. Disney wanted to be G-rated.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, let's spin some Cinderella into this thing. Come on, disney is Cinderella. No, it's not. Yes it is. It's princesses, it's Mickey Mouse. That's Disney. It's not R-rated movies.
Speaker 1:Create an offshoot company that you own and have that handle the R-rated side of it. Otherwise, what they're doing, though, is rebranding. Yeah, they realize they can't build on Harry Potter unless it becomes R-rated, and they took the best tool they knew was out there to go R-rated Right. True, it did it Right, because if you look at the statistics on this movie, there's four quadrants. They call it Okay. It all starts at 25. It's men, women over under 25. Okay, so people from people under 25, male and female, are going to this movie.
Speaker 1:People over 25, male and female are going to this movie so R-rated is what male and female are going to this movie. So our rate is what? 18 and over. Yes, there's kids in the movies. There was kids in the movies and that movie was just littered with the word fuck, that'll break. Fuck, fuck, fucky, fuck, fuck, sure, fuck, motherfucker, fuck this Sexual innuendos all over the place, blood gore and people love it. Yes, sick people out there.
Speaker 2:This and people love it. Yes, sick people out there. No, this is a Humorous, though.
Speaker 1:This is a coming of ages. This is everybody trying to catch up with what is real in this world. Now this is what people are looking for. It's so sad. You don't want to see Cinderella and be kept under this rock. Then you get Ryan Reynolds, who does it in a humorous way. He's out there knocking down that fourth wall and talking to you as he's doing it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's just awesome. He's like I remember that he turned around and just talked to the audience. It's like hilarious, like he felt like you're right there in the movie with him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's his best attribute to talk down the fourth wall.
Speaker 2:Yeah, or knock down the fourth wall.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, his transformation into Deadpool is almost exactly like Wolverine's. Now, that's why they're so close in relation to each other as characters. And it all started because Wolverine is Weapon X yes, in X-Men, yep, and he was given the adamantium on his bones. Correct, wade Wilson is Weapon 11. Yes, he has all of Wolverine's powers.
Speaker 2:Yes, Plus the adamantium Right.
Speaker 1:Plus, the mouth Strega finally learned how to shut you up, and that's where the joke all started. Yes, because in the first Deadpool you see him pick up the little figurine and say it's his favorite prized possession and all of a sudden it turns to Wham. Yeah, this is where Michael and Andy really earned their exclamation point, because in X-Men Origins is where Wolverine killed Deadpool. Yes, they chopped off his head.
Speaker 2:I remember that.
Speaker 1:Him and Victor, who became Sabretooth in X-Men only to fight against his brother. Right, he had to fight against him. I'm not going to talk about the movie, except for the success it had. I don't want to spoil anything for anybody who has seen it and listens to this Right, right right, I I never was an X-Men big fan, though that was my least favorite one to watch.
Speaker 2:I couldn't follow it very well. I enjoyed them, but when I started watching Marvel and then I got Deadpool, I liked that series better. And of course, deadpool and Wolverine is a hit. It's a hit.
Speaker 1:Wade Wilson. His name was Jimmy. I can't remember his last name in the movies, but they called him Logan. Long story short. Lost his memory and his name was Jimmy and I can't remember his last name in the movies, but they called him Logan. Oh, because long story short shot in the head lost his memory, became Logan Exactly. Their life experiences were almost exactly like throughout the whole timeline of each of their comics.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:So they end up with adamantium, except they don't show it in the Deadpool movies. Now, no, he just uses his swords, yes, which I believe are made of adamantium in the movies. It's not like he has that ability to retract claws or extract claws. Yeah, whatever Right, they're almost exactly alike. They're basically the same superhero in two different ways, correct?
Speaker 2:Logan doesn't say anything.
Speaker 1:Nope, wade Wilson can't shut up. Can you imagine those two in a movie like the Other Guys with Will Ferrell and Mark Wahlberg? Oh gosh, and they're just cops that would be hysterical.
Speaker 2:That would be hysterical. That's that shit. That would be hysterical.
Speaker 1:Back into the movie's success. At this part it has the ability now de facto can't keep on task all the time Check it out To clear a billion dollars. That's insane. The first two did 782 and 785 million Respectively Overall, which is probably more with DVD sales or anything like rentals and stuff like that. Right right, but this will be the first R-rated trilogy. Fact check Deado's an idiot. It'll put him over 2 billion to surpass the billion dollar mark and put it on track alone to just jolt the whole avenger marvel studio company back into the prime lane. Oh great, because which holy cow funny thing it came up on comic-con weekend.
Speaker 2:Yes, right I did read that came up with comic-con.
Speaker 1:What the hell just happened with comic-con ditto?
Speaker 2:spoiler alert I, I'm not a fan of that. There's some weirdos that go there. I don't know about that stuff. I mean I'm all into comics and all that, but I don't know.
Speaker 1:I spent a whole weekend doing it honestly they said that there's going to be another Avengers movie. Heard that too, and a certain person will be taking on a new role. Does anyone know that? Well, we're going to tell them, it's all over the news anyway, so it doesn't matter. That's true, it is, but Robert Downey Jr is going to take on Victor Von Doom. Yep, awful, oh, come on. Awful, bad move. Why? This is how. It's almost like you're doing so well with Deadpool and Wolverine. Right now you want to shoot yourself in the foot.
Speaker 2:Why would you? I don't understand why you're saying that?
Speaker 1:Why do you watch the Avengers?
Speaker 2:Because for Iron man and America.
Speaker 1:You want to see Iron man as Victor Von Doom.
Speaker 2:It's a different timeline. It's a different timeline, that's what happens?
Speaker 1:Use a different character then.
Speaker 2:He.
Speaker 1:I still have a hard time with Josh Brolin as Thanos and then Cable.
Speaker 2:Oh really.
Speaker 1:Yes, and I said that in the second Deadpool. Why, josh Brolin? He's Thanos.
Speaker 2:He can't be Cable. Well, he was.
Speaker 1:Well, no one knows it's the same person.
Speaker 2:unless you read about it, you can see Josh Brolin's face in Thanos. Well, I'd have to really look at it again. I wasn't paying attention. Next time you watch it, listen to the voice see the face and you will see Josh Brolin. Okay, I'll have to really analyze the face next time I watch it.
Speaker 1:And then they made him Cable and Deadpool, which at the time didn't overlap, yeah, so I guess it's two different universes. Okay, but you're not going to look at Tony Stark playing Victor Von Doom against the Avengers which he created. It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2:You've got to get a different character. They're all into it. They all think he's going to be a great, great Doctor Doom, and it's all about a different timeline and there's other people from Avengers going to be in it, I'm thinking it may be good.
Speaker 1:Now that Disney bought all the Marvel stuff, they have access to X-Men and the Fantastic Four Yep, they do which they didn't have before, correct. So now it's all on Disney. Yep, you can watch all of it, yep. And so who's going to end up in that movie?
Speaker 2:Well, I'm already predicting Without saying too much about Deadpool. Right.
Speaker 1:It was a shock to see some of these things. Yeah, and I didn't know why until I came home, started reading the news. Yeah, I didn't put it together, okay, so think about that yep, no, I know I.
Speaker 2:I just thought I think it's going to be a different take on it. I know the avengers are all goody goody and then you're putting him in that role. But I don't, I think it's gonna be good, I really do, I really do. And then, adding the other characters, I think they said something, something that the Fab Four was going to be in there, and then what's the other one we just talked about? Who was his sidekick? Who was Captain America's sidekick?
Speaker 1:I didn't know he had one.
Speaker 2:No, his friend.
Speaker 1:Oh, the Winter Soldier. Thank you, he was mentioned too. I mentioned it. I thought it was the same character, but I don't think it was. I think I missed that one. I mentioned it, I thought it was the same character, but I don't think it was. I think I missed that one.
Speaker 2:Oh, I said it to you while we were at the movie. Oh, I was like, isn't that the Winter Soldier? Yes, no, it was a different character. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:It was, and I don't know who it was. It looks like that guy, though it does All right.
Speaker 2:Back to the Wolverine and concise, because I don't want to give away too much. Oh boy, but that was part of my talk today. There were so many parts, oh hang on Well. Oh my gosh, I'm on the spot right now. I can't pick out one. There was the part with the dog. That's hysterical. I thought it was absolutely hysterical and that's pretty much all I'm going to say, that's all. I'm going to say with the whole dual thing.
Speaker 1:I think people can pretty much figure that one out. I've seen that pictures all over the place, Right.
Speaker 2:but they don't know what it is, though that's part of it, but they don't know the whole thing with the dual thing and all that. So I thought that was pretty funny.
Speaker 1:I think the funniest part was Fabio. That's what I'm saying. No, no, fabio, I don't want to say too much, but the Fabio Deadpool.
Speaker 2:Oh yes.
Speaker 1:That was my favorite part. He was funny. That's what I was the only one that doesn't do a certain thing. Yes, that's hilarious. That would be. Yeah, it was good. Deadpool is not a hero. He's not a superhero.
Speaker 2:No no.
Speaker 1:He's anti-superhero.
Speaker 2:He is. And it comes back to, if anyone knows what we're talking about, that he had a twisted path and he's just trying to figure it all out, and it's Does he belong in the superhero realm? Oh, you know what? I can't give you a direct answer on that one he would be the superhero of the superhero realm.
Speaker 1:Okay, because he's bringing it back to life, he's the anti-hero. Because he's bringing it back to life, he's the anti-hero. He's the one that doesn't want to do it, but the one that we rely on, even like in real life, in the movies. Okay.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean? All right, okay, I can see where you're going with that.
Speaker 1:Avengers was failing for a little bit. Yep.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't say fail no.
Speaker 1:Take that back, but you know, downward a little bit. Installment of Deadpool and poof. Yeah, they seem to be back on the right track and going in the right direction. Correct, robert Downey Jr will be the end of that Okay. So, that's where I'm going. Oh yeah, but it's funny to put Deadpool and Wolverine together, because they're so different, yet so the same.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:It's like a shadow of one another. I know One's standing up, the other one's the shadow, ending up. Dealing with the shadow Right, whichever one.
Speaker 2:it is Right. They really played it well together, though honestly they really. It was a great movie. I want to talk about it, but I don't want to talk about it to give anything away if no one's seen it.
Speaker 1:The other thing I was. I was reading this online and the other thing I was thinking about was how you go about creating a character and keeping it in line Humans age. Hugh Jackman has aged since the first X-Men right, where he debuted as Wolverine.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm getting old.
Speaker 1:There was a question on the internet about Hugh Jackman's evolution from clean shaven to old Wolverine. You've looked at it how you looked at it.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:In the comics they don't age.
Speaker 2:No, they can stay the same age the entire time.
Speaker 1:I thought they did a halfway decent job with keeping it in line, even though Hugh Jackman is obviously getting older, right, not in a bad way, no, but he's not the same one he was years ago, right, and it's the movies, not the comics, right? So that's the difference. You've got to adapt to it, mm-hmm. So all of this started from the Wolverine origins, the X-Men origins, wolverine yes, and I've said that a thousand times, you have and it's gone from there. These were set in motion with those origins. Yes, these Deadpool movies were and this one was already a thought Right Back then. Right, so how do they do that? How do they keep?
Speaker 2:it all a secret. Celebrities just lie to us. We just talk. I heard I just Keeping Secrets and then they blew the last one. Someone leaked something and it was a whole big.
Speaker 1:That was the origin movie. That's what it was. That was where.
Speaker 2:Ryan.
Speaker 1:Reynolds and Hugh Jackman are eating all the wings Right?
Speaker 2:Yes, that's another good one. Ryan Reynolds just keeps plugging his hot sauce.
Speaker 1:That's hilarious, I know. And he's dying. He's dying, he looks like he's going to have diarrhea.
Speaker 2:Right there on the stage, Hugh Jackman. I thought he was going to fall off the stool. His hands were shaking.
Speaker 1:He started his eyes with the hot sauce.
Speaker 2:Stop it, Stop it. Listen. I gave them kudos because they got through all ten of those hot sauces. I would have been dead after five.
Speaker 1:Oh, absolutely. After one. There's a certain thing from the movie that we're going to go into now. So if you haven't seen the movie and you don't want to know anything, shut it off now. Shut it off now. Shut it off now, because I'm going to say things that you're not going to want to know.
Speaker 2:Anyway, lady, Deadpool, lady Deadpool, I found who that is, potentially, potentially, potentially.
Speaker 1:Potentially, but I want to go back and watch it again just to hear her voice. Was it really her that played it? Did she play it? I don't remember the actress's name.
Speaker 2:Yeah, listen, it's not completely confirmed.
Speaker 1:I know, but I want to go hear the voice to see if she's actually the one playing it, because I wasn't thinking about it back then. And then the kid I get it yeah, yep, I get it, yep, yep, I get it, Yep, kitty Deadpool.
Speaker 2:Yep. Are we giving any of the names away now?
Speaker 1:We're not going to give the names away. I said Lady Deadpool and Kitty Deadpool.
Speaker 2:I know we're going to give them who they were.
Speaker 1:Well, you think they are.
Speaker 2:I think they are. So I think Lady Deadpool was lovely Blake Lively and the little Kitty Deadpool was his daughter. That's what I think, oh.
Speaker 1:That's what I think.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's what you said to me.
Speaker 1:Yes, I thought you meant it was Deadpool's girlfriend and she was pregnant. No, remember she gives him the stick. Yes, well, that's where I went with it. Oh, I went, and it was his kids.
Speaker 2:No, no, his real kid and his real wife. Oh I just stumped it all.
Speaker 1:No, you didn't stump me, because we're both right on this. Because she was pregnant, I took it that way.
Speaker 2:I took it with the dark-haired girl, vanessa, and she was pregnant.
Speaker 1:They had a girl, and those were the two of them. That's where I went with it. I didn't know you were talking about Blake Lively and his actual daughter. Yes, that's who physically played the characters.
Speaker 2:Played the characters physically.
Speaker 1:That would make sense due to the Comic-Con or whatever the premiere I mean, where she's dressed like Deadpool In that suit. Yep, ha, yeah, go figure Again. Hopefully we just started another rumor. Here we come, rumor stomping, rumor stomping, and here we go with another one. Comics in general are just completely full of debauchery. Yes, right, yep, I mean the drawings of over shapely women. Oh God, men look like the Hulk and everything. Women have a body to die for, people being abused and treated on, and you know experience conducting on them, right, and everybody eats it up. Yes, then it really happens. People are like that's fucked up. That's fucked up.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:How is that?
Speaker 2:How is that okay, because I guess mentally they think it's not real life.
Speaker 1:We get our freaking jollies off these movies and it happens. Oh, you can't do that. I understand. I understand the difference between real life and comics, don't get me wrong. Well, maybe some people don't, some people don't.
Speaker 2:Some people don't.
Speaker 1:So now, what do we do? We judge them for not being able to judge reality and fiction.
Speaker 2:I would. That's twisted. Why are you reading it? Why are you watching this movie? I don't know.
Speaker 1:Because you think you can. Maybe, I don't know. It's messed up I think it's a little screwy, if you ask me.
Speaker 2:I think there may be something wrong with that. I know that's a twisted place to be actually no-transcript. You got some issues.
Speaker 1:You got some real issues you got some real issues, if you think this stuff is really happening. You got some problems and I edited myself there, unlike the movie.
Speaker 2:When every word was F this, F that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, again with the fuck fuck, fucky, fuck, fuck. The cameos in the movie are also hilarious. Yep, there was a bunch of them. There's so many that I don't even know if I can recall them. So hilarious Yep, there was a bunch of them, there's so many that I don't even know if I can recall them Like even James McAvoy was in there for a hot sec.
Speaker 2:Okay, they just shot to him took him out.
Speaker 1:Yep Wasn't credited. Nope, he's like I was surprised I didn't get a call, though I would have loved to have been in that movie, yep.
Speaker 2:I didn't even know. Jennifer Gardner was in it, either Me either With With Wesley's, what was?
Speaker 1:that one. You're ruining it for everyone, although we did already tell them to not listen.
Speaker 2:Exactly, we did say turn it off At this point.
Speaker 1:It's your own fault, it's on you, people, it's on you. We told you to turn it off. It's no longer on us. That's right. Point the thumbs at you, big boy, that being said so let's just recap real quick before we're done here.
Speaker 2:The movie was great. The movie was fantastic.
Speaker 1:The trilogy is great. I watch it every time it's on Me too. It cleared all kinds of money. Yep, domestically, globally, it's becoming the fastest growing R-rated movie ever Disney's first R-rated movie. Yep, disney is headed for that change that they so desperately need Because people are growing up now. When they first advertised themselves all of that family unity, functionality, all that was in vogue and now it's not. Now people want to see blood and guts.
Speaker 2:Well, no, that's not true.
Speaker 1:And they're still like hey, come to Main Street America, any town in the USA.
Speaker 2:There are people that actually live in that kind of world.
Speaker 1:I love Disney. Me too, I do.
Speaker 2:And I would go there again and again, and again. I would too. I don't think everyone's into the blood, blood and blood. I like Universal better.
Speaker 1:I don't, but I love Disney, yes, and yet this is exactly what Disney needs. Disney needs an edgy part of it.
Speaker 2:Well, Not to take away from the whole Main Street, happy-happy.
Speaker 1:Before this they were stuck in the Cinderella, snow White, pinocchio shit, which is a joke about Pinocchio and that fucker's just a little liar. Of course it was. Since the buying of the 20th Century Fox Studios they have set in motion what I believe is their attempt to go ahead and become more edgy, right, have a different kind of persona, rebrand, rebrand.
Speaker 2:Yes, they're not going to lose their.
Speaker 1:Disney, Don't you keep Mickey Mouse?
Speaker 2:Minnie Mouse, goofy, all that stuff. You can't do that. You can't, you can't. That's, it's cultural at this point. That's what it is.
Speaker 1:But they need a little bit of a change.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:And the Marvel cinema is the way to go about it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Because everybody loves superheroes, yeah.
Speaker 1:They're not real, but it takes. It's your yin with your yang here. Yeah, so you got the Cinderella's and then you got the Iron Man's Right, put them together. Yep, it's perfect symmetry. It is anyway, but good for them for making $30 billion. I didn't even look it up. I wonder what they bought Fox for in 2019. Interesting, because that would be. I'd assume they made it all back right now. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:They made it all back right now and then some.
Speaker 1:And then the last thing Robert Downey Jr should not play Doctor Doom. Absolutely not Bad idea. It's going to ruin Iron man.
Speaker 2:No, iron man died. He's a different character now. Iron man died. But I get where you're coming from, but we should revisit this.
Speaker 1:You want to visit Batman? I know it's a different universe, different company, different everything. Do you want to visit Batman?
Speaker 2:We can visit Batman.
Speaker 1:Who's the best?
Speaker 2:Batman. Oh, you always said I think it was oh my gosh, this isn't really.
Speaker 1:it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2:No, I know I'm picturing a face.
Speaker 1:I'm drawing a face. This is what's going to happen to Iron man. Was Tony Stark better as Doctor Doom or was he better as Iron man? And then you've ruined the whole persona. This is a bad idea and it's a shot in the foot. They're on a good streak. Hire the next best actor. It's like why don't you just put Ryan Reynolds in Doctor Doom? That's what you're doing.
Speaker 2:Well, I can maybe not see that as a character, but Deadpool's still alive it doesn't matter about the character, I get it, it's the actor playing the character.
Speaker 1:Why don't you just put Ryan as Doctor Doom? Yeah, I mean, because now you're going to be like well, he's Deadpool, right.
Speaker 2:I can't get into this. I see where you're going. I see where you're going and it goes along the lines of the Batmans.
Speaker 1:Okay, because who's the best Batman? There's been about five, five of them. There was Val Kilmer, there was George Clooney, there was Christian Bale and there was Robert Pattinson. No, and there was one more.
Speaker 2:Jennifer Garner's ex J Lo's husband.
Speaker 1:Ben Affleck, thank you, I knew there was another one.
Speaker 2:There were six, that's what I was trying to say.
Speaker 1:There were six. Yeah, and it doesn't do well for the character. Like I know, michael Keaton is my favorite, okay.
Speaker 2:But that was the first one. That was the first one, the second one is Christian Bale.
Speaker 1:Okay, and that's because the trilogy was so good. Yeah, christopher Nolan did a great job with that, so it, but I hated Val Kilmer in it and I love Val Kilmer.
Speaker 2:Okay, he's one of my favorite actors of all time. He's pretty good, yep, and I hated George Clooney in it.
Speaker 1:It was still the whole changing of the character. It's a different vibe, it's a different approach. And I get there's different comics, there's different episodes of Batman, there's different lines of them, there's different universes. I get that, but when you put it in a movie it doesn't work like that, because now there's an actual face, no matter what, no matter what Batman was doing, he basically looked the same and he said the same things and he wasn't different, right, even though the stories were different he really wasn't yeah.
Speaker 1:When you put a different actor into something.
Speaker 2:It changes everything. It does change everything, right, I would agree with that.
Speaker 1:That's why Wolverine was so good, because it's just been Hugh Jackman the entire time Correct. Hugh Jackman, the entire time Correct.
Speaker 2:He didn't change. He didn't change at all.
Speaker 1:Ryan Reynolds is the same with Deadpool. It's not like they're trying to use Robert Pattinson to play Deadpool. Yes, if you're gonna keep him completely masked the entire movie, don't show his face. Don't show his face, right. Or have somebody come in and be Batman in one scene and then have your guys be Bruce Wayne. Okay, so have Val Kimmerer be Bruce Wayne, and only in the Bruce Wayne shots, right. Then it's this one guy that played Batman the entire time. Yeah.
Speaker 2:So it's always the same. So it's the same. Well, I guess we're just going to have to wait and see what happens with Doctor Doom.
Speaker 1:Doctor Doom was in Fantastic Four. It was played by the guy from Nip Tuck. I cannot remember his name off the top of my head. Oh boy. Anyway, they should just get him to do it. They should hire him Well that's the problem.
Speaker 2:The actors don't want to do it, so then they have to find somebody else that kind of fits the same character, and that's the problem. That's why we had six Batmans, because they didn't want to do it anymore. That's the problem. They weren't good at it Well whatever.
Speaker 1:Del Kilmer and George Clooney couldn't keep up with Michael Keaton's Batman, Keaton's Batman. Okay, that's why, Plus, the story's got off the wall and I think a lot of it honestly had to do with Tim Burton leaving.
Speaker 2:I agree with you on that.
Speaker 1:Tim Burton's movies were far better than everyone else's, right? Well, except for Christopher Nolan's. Yeah, that Batman trilogy is awesome. Yeah, I'm sorry, it's just awesome, but other than that, that's how we go, so good thing. I have a lot to edit out here. Anyway, we recapped everything. We talked about everything. Deadpool and Wolverine are killing it.
Speaker 2:Go see it.
Speaker 1:Go see it, seriously go see it. It's bloody, it's gory, it's funny, there's a lot of swears. Take your kids to it.
Speaker 2:Take your kids to it. I did.
Speaker 1:Yep, I did. My kid loved it, he 13. I took him to see. Of course, I let him watch Austin Powers when he was five, so so I may not be the best barometer of morals here, all right. So anyway, hey dude, raise your kids the way you want to raise them. They're yours.
Speaker 2:Yep, that's it.
Speaker 1:Don't let anybody else tell you otherwise. Just make them be productive in society. That's it. All right, everybody, we've reached the end. Thanks for listening. Hope we didn't gab your ear off too much. This is a good movie. Go see it, honest to God, and then check out the whole trilogy when you get a chance. All right, as always, be good Saki to me. Hey, everybody, it's Ditto. Thanks for checking out our show today. Hope you enjoyed it. If today, hope you enjoyed it, if you did subscribe to us, we can hook up, interact. You can tell us what you like about the show, talk about what you don't like about the show, give us information and insight. We'd appreciate it. We only want to make the show better for you guys. Also, if you get a chance, head over to someassemblynet. That's our sponsor and you could really use some business. All right, as always, everybody, be good Sake to me. You do me.
