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The Energy Showdown
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Can energy drinks really fuel your brain, or are they just liquid danger? Join us on Sockeytome as we ignite the caffeine debate between Keebler and Detto. We're tackling the coffee versus energy drinks rivalry head-on, exploring the popularity of brands like Red Bull and Monster. Dettto isn’t holding back, citing energy drinks' high sugar and potential health risks, while Keebler champions their benefits, claiming they boost brain function and energy levels. Expect some hilarious comparisons to cocaine and stories about the digestive consequences of their caffeine consumption.
Remember those Red Bull and vodka nights in the early 2000s? We sure do, and we're sharing the health scares that came with that wild combination. We compare the caffeine content in coffee and energy drinks and express our concerns about marketing energy drinks to kids. Sampling flavors like Tropical Edition Red Bull and Sparkling Ice Energy, we question the impact of ingredients like Red 40. Our conversation is peppered with humor and personal anecdotes, making a serious topic surprisingly fun.
As we wrap up, we take a nostalgic trip back to our carefree childhoods before weighing the pros and cons of various caffeinated beverages. From the potential health benefits of coffee, such as reducing the risk of Parkinson's and liver disease, to the heart risks posed by energy drinks and sodas, we cover it all. We bust the myth that coffee causes cancer and share tips on improving Gatorade’s taste and the surprising uses of cola. Stay hydrated and stay tuned for a special shoutout and a big announcement at the end!
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Hey, everybody, welcome to. Saki Tumi. Welcome everybody to another episode of Saki Tumi, where Keebler and I square off about coffee versus energy drinks. This one will be spirited, you might want to tune in.
Speaker 3Hey everybody, it's Keebler from Sakatumi. Just want to throw out a shout out to our fellow podcaster down the road, Steve Pugh. Host of Dads with Nerdy Ambitions, If you get a chance. Give him a listen, sakatumi. Hey, listen, sake to me.
Speaker 2Hey everybody, it's Ditto, we're back. I'm here with Keebler.
Speaker 3Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 2We are going to get hopped up on energy drinks, I think today.
Speaker 3Oh baby.
Speaker 2And stay tuned because we've got a little bit of news coming towards the end of the show. Stay tuned for that.
Speaker 3That's right. Big announcement tonight show.
Speaker 2Stay tuned for that. That's right. Big announcement tonight, Heck yeah. And so right now, let's get back to energy drinks and hummus. They suck.
Speaker 3Oh, I beg to differ.
Speaker 2No coffee's where it's at.
Speaker 3The main ingredient is what?
Speaker 2Caffeine.
Speaker 3Yeah, in both of them?
Speaker 2Yeah well, at least it's natural caffeine induced into some weird fruit.
Speaker 3Well, that's what makes it so good the fruit flavors, you know, the electrolytes.
Speaker 2What is this? Kenny Rogers? The wood that makes it good Coffee is where it's at. Oh, this is going to be good tonight. You're going to go down and if you make me drink one or two of these, yeah, we're sitting here with.
Speaker 3I brought a few samples of some of the not my favorites, but stuff that America likes more or less.
Speaker 2I don't think that's true. I got Red Bull. Dude, America drinks a lot of energy drinks, absolutely.
Speaker 3In 2022, the market for US energy drinks was $21.1 billion.
Speaker 2You ever see all the cans that are hanging around everywhere? Monster, celsius, rockstar, red Bull. They're all over the place. Nos, yeah, people just drop them. Oh, celsius, rockstar, red Bull.
Speaker 3They're all over the place. Nos, yeah, people just drop them. Oh yeah, it's terrible how they keep the crap and you know, don't throw it out.
Speaker 2It's because they have the jitters, they can't hold on to it anymore, because it's all hopped up on caffeine.
Speaker 3Oh yeah, You're right, you're right.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, you're right, you're right. Oh, dude, it's awful, they're toilets. This is the second episode in a row I had to use the term toilet to describe a product.
Speaker 3Really, yes, what makes these things good? I don't know, but I'm sitting here with actually I looked at two or three surveys and more or less the number one energy drink is Ardor A-R-D-O-R. They told me where I could find it.
Speaker 2I couldn't find it anywhere.
Speaker 3That's how popular it is.
Speaker 2It can't be that popular, I don't think so.
Speaker 3I've never heard of it Actually. Number two is Red Bull, and we do have a Red Bull here. We have the yellow edition.
Speaker 2I can't believe this one wouldn't be more popular. No one wouldn't be more popular.
Speaker 3That one's not a good one. Who doesn't like?
Speaker 2a bang. Who doesn't like a good bang? Yeah, you get that right, but more or less bang is you know it would behoove them if they called this panty twist instead of citrus twist. The company's called Bang.
Speaker 3Well, let me tell you a little bit about it. Monster owns Bang now.
Speaker 2So is it a monster of Bang? I can go ahead, I can go all day.
Speaker 3We're losing this episode quick here.
Speaker 2I haven't even touched this stuff yet.
Speaker 3Well, apparently Bang was hit with some lawsuits false advertising, copyright infringement and the founder was embezzling funds.
Speaker 2You are literally getting way ahead of me. Oh, you have that. Oh yeah, oh, come on. Oh God, Don't even get me started with Prime, oh Prime.
Speaker 3That's one of the newer ones.
Speaker 2It's Logan Paul.
Speaker 3Oh, is it really.
Speaker 2It's Jake Paul's brother. Yep, jake Paul's trying to fight Tyson, oh yeah.
Speaker 3Their internet sensations. I thought Tyson was hurt.
Speaker 2And these goofballs drink this stuff? Yeah, they do, and all it does is tear their insides out.
Speaker 3They shit them out the next day. Well, it's not good for your innards, like your stomach.
Speaker 2It's not good for you.
Speaker 3Okay, hang on, step back. My son, here's a lesson. Oh boy, energy drinks are good in certain ways the garbage. They help improve brain function. No, they don't, I'm telling you, they increase energy.
Speaker 2So does cocaine.
Speaker 3You're really getting to me now.
Speaker 2No, I plan on it. I plan on it there, bud.
Speaker 3You have to watch out for the energy drinks loaded with sugar.
Speaker 2They're all loaded with sugar. No, not all of them. They all lie to you. Everything is a lie on those things. It started with the five-hour energy.
Speaker 3Oh those are good.
Speaker 2They're awful.
Speaker 3But they're only a couple ounces. They're only like 60 to 80 milligrams of caffeine.
Speaker 2Why don't you just go drink a huge cup of?
Speaker 3acid, because that's what you're doing. Well, you're a coffee drinker. I'm not. I've never tried coffee before. Long story short. We used to go to softball tournaments. We used to have to stop. I'm not going to name this teammate. We used to have to stop. In the morning, dunkin' Donuts got to get my coffee Drinks about you know three, four sips. About you know three, four sips. Next thing you know hey, we gotta pull over. We're not gonna go to the bathroom Like cleaning them out. It's like, come on, what it wasn't you.
Speaker 2I know it wasn't me. By that time I had already acclimated to that, so I was alright.
Speaker 3It was like clockwork, though it was like you just flushed his system out. I've never touched it, that's one of the benefits of it.
Speaker 2It cleanses you, yes, okay, you know what?
Speaker 3doesn't cleanse you these energy drinks. That's right.
Speaker 2All it does is hurt you.
Speaker 3Okay, so here's I don't know if you know this when you have an energy drink, it gives you the boost and then it takes. It's called half-life. Have you heard that phrase? Yeah, carbon dating it. It gives it. It's the amount of hours before you start coming down off your so-called high. It's like four to six hours, but more or less it's a crash.
Speaker 2That's what exactly what it is, because it's too much sugar.
Speaker 3Forget the caffeine, that doesn't help either no, that doesn't help, but the sugar is. You're absolutely right on that. I'm going to give you that one.
Speaker 2The sugar. Why don't you just eat eight candy bars at once? You get the same effect.
Speaker 3I don't know, now you're really, now you're just making fun Except your insides might be better. They'd probably be a little bit better. Yeah.
Speaker 2Or just drink. Wash your candy bars down with pure gasoline, and then you have an energy drink.
Speaker 3Now you're making fun of me. I don't know if I like this anymore. Well, you signed up for it, so you're stuck. Yes, I did.
Speaker 2And I do not. I detest this stuff. I'm doing this because it's for the show. I do not want these. I do not like them.
Speaker 3Well, the first one we're going to try here is Rainstorm Valencia Orange. It's okay, I just had a little sip.
Speaker 2Oh my god, it burns back in my throat.
Speaker 3It's not that bad.
Speaker 2Let me go put it in the mower and see if I can move along with it. Oh my, god.
Speaker 3Well, the next one we're trying is going to be a Tropical Red Bull. Well, the next one we're trying is going to be a tropical Red Bull.
Speaker 2Well, what the hell I've got to get more cups then, because no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3Well, you're not going to finish that, it's terrible. Come on guy.
Speaker 2Why don't you let me make some nice French press coffee and we can sit here and sip it with our pinkies out. Yeah, okay.
Dangers of Energy Drinks
Speaker 3Well, here's another thing. Well, here's another thing that I this is. This is something that I tried. It was probably early 2000s. Do you remember? When you go to a, you go to a bar, and then they had Red Bull with vodka.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3Well, apparently you're only supposed to have like one of those and it gives you a little boost.
Speaker 2You're only supposed to have one beer or two.
Speaker 3One night at our fine drinking establishments here in town they're having a special 20-ounce Red Bull in vodka for like five bucks, which isn't a bad deal. Well, it's a terrible deal, but go ahead. I pounded four of those Dude. I thought I was going to have a heart attack.
Speaker 2Well, there you go. There's another problem with it. That's another con. It is yeah, do you know that 5% of the kids that have heart problems are contributed to from these drinks?
Speaker 3Really yes. Well, that's too young of a need, exactly I Well, that's too young of an age. I agree with that part. These things are like cigarettes they're addicting.
Speaker 2They're addicting and they're trying to sell them to kids and they're not healthy. Why don't you just give coffee to kids? Coffee's much healthier. It stuns your growth, doesn't it? You must have drank a lot of coffee, dude.
Speaker 3I just told you, ditto, I had never had a cup of coffee in my life.
Speaker 2You can't lie to me now. You're too sure to not have a cup of coffee. Can you reach the first rung on the tree to get up?
Speaker 3there. No, no. What do you got now? They pulled me up. I'm drinking Citrus Red Bull.
Speaker 2The first one was I already have heartburn. Are you serious? No, but I can feel it coming. And there's five of these. There are five of these drinks here.
Speaker 3I brought five drinks tonight. This is what the Red Bull Mellow Yellow Edition. It's the Tropical Edition. It's limited time only. They call it LTO if you're in the market.
Speaker 2In the market.
Speaker 3Of selling.
Speaker 2In the market.
Speaker 3Okay, so I told you the money that was made in 2022? Yeah, $24 billion, $21.1 billion. That is one-third of the beverage sales in the United States.
Speaker 2That is how dumb.
Speaker 3Americans are Well. The following year 2023, they're projecting that. They haven't come out with a number yet, but the projection was 22.7 billion.
Speaker 2These things are just crappy placebos, crappy placebos.
Speaker 3Okay, they probably don't do anything for you. I'm still drinking here, so I'm starting to feel good. We can go all night long here. Can we make this like six episodes? I'm going to have to slow the timing down to recording because eventually, we're going to be like the micromachine man, so you have a cup of coffee. You don't like that one either. Jeez, oh my God, where's that for Casey? We could use them tonight.
Speaker 2No, I don't want to see either one of those two on any of this. That's not.
Speaker 3I can see Casey, she's like so mellow.
Speaker 2She's mellow, but she just talks all the time right? Imagine who she is. Yeah, exactly yeah, I love her to death. But no sweetheart, no Giggity, and then T-Bot. She'll just keep giggling and giggling and giggling.
Speaker 3Good stuff. This is not good. So back to the cup of coffee. A regular cup of coffee is like 80 to 100 milligrams of caffeine. Some of your high-end energy drinks are close to 300 to 400 milligrams of caffeine. That's correct In one drink. That's correct In one drink. That's correct. And kids are pounding, or not even kids like myself. I used to when I was working at the post office. I'd pound 20s in the morning.
Speaker 2You're not supposed to exceed like 450 milligrams of caffeine a day.
Speaker 3Right, I never knew that.
Speaker 2One of them could have that much.
Speaker 3I never realized, and then in the afternoon I was taking a nap on my room. No lie, 20 to 25 minutes.
Speaker 2I wouldn't necessarily blame that on the energy drinks. Yeah, I'm a little bit older. That plus I can smell these things and they're disgusting.
Speaker 3I'm not a Red Bull fan, but this one's actually that one's not bad Tropical edition.
Speaker 2I want to know what's tropical about it. What?
Speaker 3is tropical about it. There's probably pineapples in it. I'm tasting some pineapple.
Speaker 2Well, at least something will taste better later, don't worry, ew Holy cats, you're not going to go there.
Speaker 3I finally got that.
Speaker 2Ha, ha ha. Hey, better late than never. Better late than never Better late than pregnant. This is true, yeah, energy drinks. They give you a quick energy boost, they're convenient. They have so many flavors and so many brands. Now the market is so saturated, oh without a doubt. It's kind of like podcasting.
Speaker 3Here's one here that I picked up. I've never heard of it. It's called Sparkling Ice Energy, zero sugar, with vitamins and electrolytes, natural caffeine.
Speaker 2That one might be all right.
Speaker 3We're going to try this one because it's berry, it's not tropical, it's not citrus, it's not a bang.
Speaker 2But these things often have all those ingredients. Well, yeah. There's like tureen and guanine.
Speaker 3Yeah, what is that red?
Speaker 240. Red 40 gives you cancer really, I'm pretty sure. I think that's why they took it off the market. That's why pistachios aren't red anymore. Remember when they had red pistachios, they were dyed. Yeah, they don't have them anymore because they're red 40.
Speaker 3No kidding. Yeah Well, I read you some of these ingredients on. This can, but you can't see they become so small so you can't read them. I think I'm starting to see where you're coming from. Here's one Vegetable juice that's good for you. No, yeah.
Speaker 2What? What vegetable?
Speaker 3It doesn't say yeah, marijuana, marijuana, one, we've got one too. All right, we're going to try another one here.
Speaker 2You don't have to hold the can up to the microphone to let everybody hear you Click it open. Oh, it's purple. Oh, that's great. It's berry. Should it be clear? It's ice. You ever see purple ice before? Besides, a snow cone which has sugar in it. They just lie to you. They lie.
Speaker 3We got another one called Rip it Energy Fuel, and then we got the Bang. I'm not going to drink the Bang, because I've had those before.
Speaker 2I'm going to rip it later after all this. Rip it right in the toilet. It doesn't give you gas.
Speaker 3I was talking about diarrhea. This is the Sparkling Ice.
Speaker 2That one's palatable. It doesn't. It's not as carbonated. I didn't see it as any less carbonated. I didn't see it as any more carbonated, I just it's not as acidic.
Speaker 3Okay, it's not as fake.
Speaker 2Oh there's one. What's that fake sugar? Saccharin, saccharin. Yeah, it's like oh there's one, what's that fake sugar? Saccharin, saccharin. Yeah, oh, there's no sugar in it, they just use saccharin. Oh yeah, because that's not going to give a can.
Speaker 3Fake sugar? Absolutely Okay, man-made processed sugar. So one of the first energy drinks, or energy colas, that they came out with was Jolt. Remember that back in the 80s?
Speaker 2Yeah, that they came out with was Joel. Remember that back in the 80s? Yeah, I used to ride my bike up to the local convenience store when I was like 12, 10, 12, 13.
Speaker 3Yep, just to get a Joel? No, kidding that young.
Speaker 2Oh yeah.
Coffee vs Energy Drinks
Speaker 3It wasn't far away. Were your parents watching you.
Speaker 2No, they weren't helicopter. Parents then, oh no, get home when the streetlights come on. Yeah, yeah, yeah, or you're not having any dinner, exactly.
Speaker 3But I would drive up there If you could see, if you could see Ditto, now the energy drink is coming back on. Yeah.
Speaker 2I'm going to have to edit most of that out. Yeah, I burped and I almost vomited because of this crap. Listen, I'm a coffee guy. I always have that on.
Speaker 3So what makes them any better? Coffee? Yeah, I mean like this what is it? Starbucks like double shot, triple shot.
Speaker 2It's like no, no, no, that's not coffee. What is that?
Speaker 3That's also crap. That's just energy drinks, more energy drinks, but not yet.
Speaker 2Coffee has the ability to protect against Parkinson's. It has the ability to prevent, not prevent, but help ward off type 2 diabetes, liver disease, heart attacks, strokes, alzheimer's, all kinds of stuff, and it gives you the natural pickup that you're looking for, instead of this crap where you're ingesting. Why don't you just? Drink cyanide, well I think that's what's in it I can't do the positive stuff on energy drinks.
Speaker 3Which there wasn't any the brain function alertness.
Speaker 2One other note Coffee forever had a stigma to it that it caused cancer, right, but do you know why? No, a stigma to it that it caused cancer, right, but do you know why no? What's the one thing that goes best with coffee?
Speaker 3Probably sugar no, milk no, cream no. Oh, donuts.
Speaker 2No.
Speaker 3I don't drink coffee, so I don't know Cigarettes. Really, I don't smoke either.
Speaker 2So so forever they blamed it on coffee.
Speaker 3Really yes, so forever they blamed it on coffee Really?
Speaker 2Yes, like coffee was a carcinogen, yep, but everybody that drank coffee was smoking a cigarette. Gotcha, so everybody's coming down with cancer and they're blaming it on coffee when in actuality, it was the cigarettes.
Speaker 3Well, here's a little too much. Here's a negative downside on energy drinks real quick. Too much caffeine causes high blood pressure, increased heart rate, anxiety, insomnia and heart disease. So I guess that isn't good. No, Well, not at all.
Speaker 2Here's my list. Water is better than all this, Absolutely. You could take a teaspoon of salt, wash it down with water and basically get the same effect from these things.
Speaker 3I don't want a water kick every now and then, I mean, but after a while it's just like you need something with flavor Polar.
Speaker 2Polar seltzer Flavored water. Whatever happened to Clearly Canadian, I don't know Stuff was so good. Water picks you up, keeps you full, true Hydrates you, and then even like Gatorade if they would just water down Gatorade.
Speaker 3Yeah, I agree with that. It would be so much better, a lot better.
Speaker 2I agree it's too sugary, it's too much, yeah, I take a bottle of water. I'll buy a bottle of water and a bottle of Gatorade and mix them. I'll drink as much water as I can at once and fill it back up with Gatorade and throw the Gatorade away. That's not a bad idea. Prime, okay, the Energy Drink.
Speaker 3Prime, yeah, I know it well, I've tried it.
Speaker 2It is like drinking six cans of Coca-Cola at once. Are you kidding me? Nope, it's like drinking two 12-ounce cans of Red Bull. Wow, that's how bad it is. They're being sued.
Speaker 3Really.
Speaker 2It's probably going to be taken off the market. Damn, and they only got up there because it was on the internet. No shit.
Speaker 3Yes, well, one of the highest I mean soda absolutely has a lot of. It has caffeine, and Mountain Dew is one of my go-to drinks.
Speaker 2But that's just another one that makes your heart race after you drink too much of that. You realize that if a beverage can melt, rust off a truck.
Speaker 3Well, it's like Coca-Cola, I would imagine. Well, that's not to throw that name out there.
Speaker 2It could be any cola, any cola. I don't think it's just Coke. All right, I won't pick on Coke.
Speaker 3Yeah, I think Pepsi could do the same thing, I'm sure.
Speaker 2But you know, if it can do that, it can clean your toilet, oh nice, why don't you just go drink ammonia?
Speaker 3or bleach.
Speaker 2What are you doing? Yeah, I used to work for one of those big companies.
Speaker 3Yeah, you did.
Speaker 2Yeah, and it was a fun job. I liked it, but because of that I stopped drinking soda Really and the best thing that ever happened.
Speaker 3That's the best thing that you ever did. No, is that in the stores?
Speaker 2Yeah, there was a seltzer beverage company water beverage next to where they kept the overstock. Okay, in the back rooms, yeah, and I would drink out of their returns and that's how I got hooked on seltzers Really. Yeah, and I love them. I've loved them ever since I drink them All the time. Coffee is better than these energy drinks. I'm glad you brought these in, but, holy cow, I already have heartburn.
Speaker 3Well, I'm like sitting on the edge of my seat now. I will sit back. Relax. Now I'm ready to go. Let's do a couple more episodes.
Speaker 2We probably will, because we got more to talk about anyway. Sounds good to me. Coffee also has many different antioxidants in it, naturally occurring, not that it's put in there.
Speaker 3Are you trying to sell me on coffee? I'm trying to tell you that coffee, if you really want something?
Speaker 2get a cup of coffee. Go to Dunkin' Donuts get an iced coffee. Do you know why I don't drink iced coffee? Why? Because it's gone. A hot coffee at least stays in the cup for a little while. Iced coffee. Right to my gut, but coffee has health benefits. It has antioxidants, it promotes the mental alertness and everything that you're looking for in these things.
Speaker 3Yeah, it's some of the stuff I've said about the energy drinks.
Speaker 2How often do you go out? It's only temporary. Hey, how about you and I go out and sit down and have a ripple? We don't ever say that. Hey, how about you and I?
Speaker 3go out and sit down and have a ripple. We don't ever say that.
Speaker 2No, you want to go get a cup of coffee.
Speaker 3There you go. That's the saying. Yeah, that's because this is crap, that's first date stuff.
Speaker 2Whatever, yep. So having said all that, I'm sorry you haven't sold me on anything? I guess I didn't. My eye's twitch ear, but I'm sure it has nothing to do with these. It wasn't like that before hey.
Speaker 3on a positive note, if you woke up in a bad mood today, just remember some dumbass woke up next to your ex and thinks they found the love of their life.
Speaker 2Oh, poor bastard.
Speaker 3That's not nice, I'm sorry. No that's not right. How about this one? If you're single, be patient. Your soulmate's almost done with those divorce papers. See what you did with this energy drink.
Speaker 2This was a bad idea for the topic. I can't stop giggling. I only took two sips of this crap.
Speaker 3You took three.
Speaker 2All right.
Speaker 3One thing I want to say You're way over.
Speaker 2We talked briefly. I'm going to start doing a video thing on reviewing different types of coffees. Okay, coming up, I bought a new griddle, yeah.
Speaker 3That's in the site my better half wants in on that.
Speaker 2She's more than welcome to come. She's a coffee drinker as long as she feels comfortable on camera, yep, and she doesn't mind her likeness being out there, she's more than welcome.
Speaker 3Wait, wait, wait, nil, we get money for this.
Speaker 2No, but we are going to start doing videos on coffees, coffee recipes and stuff flavors, how to make them blah, blah. Ice coffees that sounds great, regular coffees, and so you're going to end up trying coffee and you'll see by the end of it that, uh, I don't know man it's just much better now.
Speaker 2The other thing is we got a big announcement we are in the process of signing, maybe possibly our first sponsor, somehow some way. I don't know how it's going to work. I have to sit down with them. We'll have more information on that. But it is a big company with a great dude, so I don't want to say too much until I sit down and talk with him. Absolutely.
Speaker 3But stay tuned and we'll figure it all out and we'll get back to you More to come on that.
Speaker 2Absolutely. Now that brings us to about the end of the show.
Speaker 3Awesome, I had a good time.
Speaker 2Yeah, I know we no offense, but that flew by.
Speaker 3It did fly by. I'm ready to drink some more. We got five open cans of energy drinks and I'm ready to drink baby.
Speaker 2We must have wings.
Speaker 3Woo, hey, quick shout out to Sammy J.
Speaker 2Sammy J Love you girl. Yes, we've got to do that more often. Yeah, absolutely, I generally forget, and I don't know why. Don't forget Ham, oh Ham, he better call me soon. Yeah, he's overdue. He's got to call in. He's got to defend you. At one point, god, I need him.
Speaker 3Because you just lost to myself.
Podcast Show Promotion and Shoutouts
Speaker 2Yeah, anyway, we are at the end of the show. It was a good time here. Keebs, thanks for coming in, thanks for bringing all this stuff.
Speaker 3Toilets when we get the sound effects on this show.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, I really got to update the board. With that being said, drink your coffee, your water and your beer. Those are the only three liquids you need. Anyway, guys, thanks for tuning in, thanks for listening and, as always, be good. Hey everybody, it's Ditto. I just want to give a quick shout out to my buddy, larry, over at legendarygraphicscom. He's the one that came up with our logo. Came out fantastic, he does amazing work, and that's legendarygfxcom. Look him up. Saki to me.
Speaker 2Hey everybody, it's Ditto. Thanks for checking out our show today. Hope you enjoyed it. If you did, subscribe to us, we can hook up, interact. You can tell us what you like about the show, talk about what you don't like about the show, give us information and insight. We'd appreciate it. We only want to make the show better for you guys. Also, if you get a chance, head over to someassemblynet that's our sponsor and you can really do some business. All right, as always, everybody be good. Socky doobie.
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